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General Off-Topic Discussion / Re: Thank you!
« on: November 18, 2009, 12:29:31 AM »
You're very welcome  ;)

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Local Games Listing/RSVP / Re: San Tan Airsoft Game
« on: November 01, 2009, 10:28:13 PM »
I'm waiting for the addendum:

Requirements:
-Age between 16-19
- Female
- Send pic

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Local Games Listing/RSVP / Re: San Tan Airsoft Game
« on: November 01, 2009, 08:38:47 PM »
Quote from: "USNSEAL986"
Airsoft Game in the Gilbert- San Tan area at 12pm on November 7th.

Requirements:
-Age between 16-19


Huh?

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Local Games Listing/RSVP / Re: Where are some good beginer team tourniments
« on: November 01, 2009, 07:12:41 PM »
I didn't know there was a tourney segment to airsoft. It would be interesting to see.

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Quote from: "I Slap Fat Kids"

Make sure to let us know when you post the video of today's game.


There's a video? Seriously?  :oops:

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General Airsoft Discussion / Re: should i buy from evike.
« on: November 01, 2009, 07:07:38 PM »
I've ordered from them twice.  I haven't had any problems with Evike at all.

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This was a ton of fun. Thanks Fightertown for inviting us out.  Yall have good food, too  ;)

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General Off-Topic Discussion / Re: fellow riders?
« on: November 01, 2009, 12:08:14 AM »
I ride a BMW K1200S



Yeah, I know this is an old thread, but it was only on page 2  8)

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Quote from: "Fightertown 1"
No ammo limits and we will play several types of games.  If alot of people want a zombie game, im sure we can work one in.

Thanks

Hey I wouldn't mind being a zombie.  Sounds fun.

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General Airsoft Discussion / Re: AGM and CYMA are GONE!!!
« on: October 30, 2009, 06:57:38 PM »
The argument posted is that because Airsoft rifles now cost 100 bucks less than they used to, the sport has been invaded by jaskasses.

My counter argument is that airsoft has always been rather cheap compared to other hobbies, particularly another shooting sport that shares the same demographic, paintball. Thus, since airballing is already a rather inexpensive hobby, there must be another reason why assclowns are invading the sport other than cheaper guns.

You then stated that airsoft is not any cheaper than paintball.

I disagree with you and I think most people who do the math would agree that playing paintball is far more expensive. If not in gear, certainly in the ammunition. Again, paint is 10 times more expensive than BB's, that's 1000% more expensive.

BTW, the fact that you saw thousand dollar paintball guns at a local Rec-Ball field, and not at a tournament, speaks volumes for how common they really are. When I was playing paintball it seemed like everyone and their dog owned a thousand dollar gun.

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General Airsoft Discussion / Re: AGM and CYMA are GONE!!!
« on: October 30, 2009, 12:54:14 PM »
Quote from: "Exarach"
Agreed about the influx of douche bags, I believe its how you play, not what you pay.
But wait? You got your entire setup for under 2000$??? Damn, I wish I could do that, If I wanted a a TH 240 to go with my VN kit, thats a straight 1500$ BEFORE upgrading the hell out of it, but man I really want a ARES M200! 1400$  :(  
You know what... Ive decided fuckit, I want a Shoei....
You want a high end gun, you pay for it, were not talking a gun, and a padded black and blue fetish suit, were talking a full replica rifle, plus a 100% accurate kit load out,  THAT is the "high- end" of airsoft.
Were not talking about some 200$ sportline CA's here, though I do like those...

On another note, the "Springer" of PB guns is not some 200$ spyder, its that hilarious 40$ Blue- green C02 tube thing that sites next to the airguns at the walmart

Point is this, you are claiming airsoft is cheaper than your "high end" PB game. Well, you choose to play high end paintball, and you bought the gear as a result. Now don't try to compare it to some lower scale CA's, I could go play PB for 300$ too.If your going to tote your High end gear out, at least have the decency to compare to similar gear in airsoft.

Airsoft is based around  reenactment/training/Good time, more so then competition, its just a different thing.
This is my 0.02

On another random note, do you ever do anything with the 501st? My guess is yes but idk.


You really think comparing a limited edition sniper rifle like the Ares is comparable to an Angel paintball marker? One is something you'll likely not see too many of in your lifetime, the other is one of the most common paintball guns you'll see at any tournament. Hardly an apples to apples comparison.

I notice you didn't comment on the obscene price difference in ammunition between paintball and airsoft.  All equipment costs aside, the fact that paintballs cost 1000% (yes, one thousand percent) more than airsoft BB's will mean that the cost of playing paintball, will vastly eclipse the cost of playing airsoft over time.

And yeah, I do stuff with the Dune Sea Garrison from time to time.

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Introduce Yourself! / Re: Lightsabers and Airsoft, the perfect combo
« on: October 30, 2009, 11:22:35 AM »
Quote from: "derekr44"
And here's something for the Star Wars fan in all of us: http://wildammo.com/2009/08/09/what-sto ... r-day-off/

Those are funny as hell!

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General Airsoft Discussion / Re: AGM and CYMA are GONE!!!
« on: October 30, 2009, 11:07:45 AM »
Quote from: "Exarach"
Quote from: "Ultra"
Coming from a Tournament Paintball perspective, Airsoft is significantly less expensive in every aspect, from guns, to equipment, to ammunition.  A decent marker + airsystem +hopper to just fool around with in Rec Ball will cost about $200. Decent paint is 50 bucks per 2000.  For tournament play, expect to spend at least a grand on your gun, air system, and rig. Much more than that if you are going to take the sport seriously.

I picked up two CA guns from Gearbox for a fraction of what I spent on my Angel paintball rig. Even high grade ammo is ridiculously cheap in comparison.  15 bucks for 5 thousand .20 bio degradables?  Compared to paint, that's almost free.

So honestly I don't know what some of yall are talking about. From my point of view, airsoft has never been expensive. Ever.  It's always been a fraction of the expense of paintball and in the paint world, airballing has always been seen as a cheap alternative to paintball.

Airsoft has always been cheap.  If the sport is all of a sudden being inundated with jerks, the low cost of guns is not the reason.

You have absolutely no idea what you are talking about do you?

On  side, love the ultrasabers, friend of mine has a pair, and me duel every once in a while. However, most people consider a decent Airsoft rifle to cost upwards of 300$, BEFORE upgrades. So how is that cheaper then 200? That doesn't even include gear. My man, lurk for a while find out what the ins and outs are, then comment, I don't know one paintfag who considers Airsoft a "cheaper" version of a similar gun game. Our guns are just better, and they are jealous :)
lol.. no, but really......

I don't know what I'm talking about?  Sounds like you don't know anything about the high end game in paintball.

A $200 paintball setup would be the equivalent in airsoft terms as a Walmart Crossman.  If you want to talk about GOOD gear, it's a whole other story.

So a good airsoft gun is $300 before upgrades, wow, really?  A whole $300?? Get outta here! Tournament level paintball guns are over a grand. I've never heard of anyone spending anywhere close to a grand on an airsoft battle rifle before upgrades.

My Angel paintball marker was $1200 before upgrades, and Angels are not even top of the line anymore.

And for $1200, you can't even shoot it, you still need a nitrogen system, regulator, drop forward, and motorized hopper. My Smart Parts nitro system was $250 alone and my motorized hopper was $100.  The accessories needed just to fire my Angel cost more than an airsoft rifle.

Now let's not forget the paint. $60 for a case of tournament grade paint. Paint comes 2,000 rounds per case and paintballers carry 200 rounds in the hopper and at least 400 rounds in pods and usually shoot all of that PER GAME. Do the math on that and you'd see how quickly just the cost of paint can eclipse all the expenses of airsoft.

Bottom line: Airsoft is significant'y cheaper to play than paintball and always has been. The cost of the ammunition alone is evidence enough much less the cost of guns +air. If airsoft is suddenly being over run by idiots, it isn't because someone saved 100 bucks on a gun, that's just a red herring.

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General Airsoft Discussion / Re: AGM and CYMA are GONE!!!
« on: October 29, 2009, 08:41:20 PM »
Coming from a Tournament Paintball perspective, Airsoft is significantly less expensive in every aspect, from guns, to equipment, to ammunition.  A decent marker + airsystem +hopper to just fool around with in Rec Ball will cost about $200. Decent paint is 50 bucks per 2000.  For tournament play, expect to spend at least a grand on your gun, air system, and rig. Much more than that if you are going to take the sport seriously.

I picked up two CA guns from Gearbox for a fraction of what I spent on my Angel paintball rig. Even high grade ammo is ridiculously cheap in comparison.  15 bucks for 5 thousand .20 bio degradables?  Compared to paint, that's almost free.

So honestly I don't know what some of yall are talking about. From my point of view, airsoft has never been expensive. Ever.  It's always been a fraction of the expense of paintball and in the paint world, airballing has always been seen as a cheap alternative to paintball.

Airsoft has always been cheap.  If the sport is all of a sudden being inundated with jerks, the low cost of guns is not the reason.

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I'll be there to meet and greet.

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