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Local Games Listing/RSVP / Re: Fort Adobe 11-13-11
« on: November 13, 2011, 08:36:52 AM »
Seems like everyone is backing out...Jedi and i arent going in this weekend.
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Thanks man gonna be a good gameQuote from: "Richthofen"Me and 2 guests should be there. Anyone have an extra full face mask for one of my guests? First time hes actually going out to a game so he doesn't have gear.Ill bring one for ya.
Quote from: "Richthofen"I bought a m120 but I'm going to run .25 or .28 and that was the question i was asking. I want my bbs to get good accuracy and still be at 400 fps so which bb weight would lower me to just under 400fps with a m120 spring. But, since i got a new airseal nozzle and a tight bore barrel will i need to use .30s to get under 400?
I still don't understand what you are asking.
It seems to me that you are asking what weight of bbs will bring you under 400 fps if your gun shoots too hot. Is that what you are asking? Or are you just asking what weight of bbs you should use? If so, I already answered that.
If your gun shoots 400 fps with .2s, then .25s will bring it down to the 350-360 fps area. .28s will bring it down to about 330-340 fps.
.25s typically lower the fps about 40-50 fps. .28s will lower the fps about 60-70 fps.
i believe that the e1 m16s will have a m120 stock. Also i would buy a bravo oring air nozzle instead of the modify, and a double oring cylinder head (Try and get bravo to match the air nozzle, non silent type). And you forgot to tack on your shims and bucking and nub. It may have a madbull blue bucking stock though.
Quote from: "Richthofen"Echo 1 STAG-15 A4
6.03MM Tightbore
m120 Spring
Polycarb piston and piston head
Systema Bushings
New Air seal nozzle
Steel spring guide
Would that work out well? Any other things i should get upgrade wise?
What barrel? For 6.03mm, Madbulls are great. If you can spend a bit more, Prometheus are nicer. You might not see much of a performance difference between the two, the Prometheus will just have a longer lifespan since it's SS. You can still put plenty of rounds through a Madbull though. (it's not like it needs to be replaced every 40,000 rounds)
I know the JG Enhanced models come with metal bushings, not sure about the E1s. I would think they do. You might check which size bushings the E1s come with if they are nylon.
Keep the stock piston and piston head. If the stock piston is the creme colored one, then it is very durable. Just make sure the AOE is adjusted. Piston head is good too, you may just need to replace the O ring with a #14.
A bearing spring guide is a good idea. It should have a metal spring guide stock, but replacing it with a bearing one is a good idea. Or keep the stock spring guide and add a bearing piston head. (Element POM/Red piston heads are great)
New nozzle is always a good idea. Stock clone nozzles typically are leaky.
Reshim and regrease the gears too while you are at it.
the gearbox parts aren't nessicary to get out to that range. with the 200 left over that i said with the parts i mentioned already. You can try and put a CA hopup unit in it, i would do some research on it before buying it to see if it is worth it. You should be able to make the 200 ft. shot with a 455 mm tbb and a non ported cylinder. You will probably need a barrel extension to cover the barrel. What is the fps limit at adobe anyways. Because you said it was a cqb field and i doubt they will let you shoot over 400 with a .20. For shot consistency you can go and upgrade all of the internals but the systema bucking should help after it is broken in correctly. Just do the barrel and hop up stuff first and see what your shot varience is. I would aim for 10-15 variance with stock gearbox parts. if you are at 10 fps i would go into that gearbox and just use it how it is as long as it shoots at the fps that allows you to play on the field.
Quote from: "Richthofen"Quote from: "icorus16666"Quote from: "Richthofen"the reason i am doing this is to have an accurate but high power aeg so is the m14 the best choice or would a different gun like an m16 be better...what im basing this off of is barrle length, and normally longer barrel=more accurate. Correct me if i am wrong
longer barrel doesn't mean more accurate, it is a combination of barrel, hopup bucking, nub, bb quality, and fps consistency. If this is your first aeg don't be expecting a whole lot for range. Example my master series mp5 cant touch out to 175 all day. So say after you spend all that time and energy upgrading a gun on the cheap the range you are going to get maybe 225 if you are lucky. Thats only a 50 foot difference. how fast can you cover 50 feet? If i was in your shoes i would just buy a e1 m16 plastic body with ris. It is light and wont fatigue you. The reason why so many people run ars is that everyone has the mags and sharing is nice. This suggestion is based off the assumption of this being your first aeg. Correct me if I'm wrong. this is just my opinion on what you should do. IF you want more insight go ahead and ask that is what the forum is here for.
this is actually my 3rd. I have a dboys ak47 which, after it has been taken to the shop and all the internals revamped, is not bad. I also own a ECHO 1 scar which is pretty nice aswell. I just got done playing some people who could shoot me from one end of the cqb field at fort adobe to the other, and i figured it would be nice to have a pretty good distance weapon that is full auto. I have a budget around 300 dollars for this gun so i am looking at a few models such as a the echo 1 socmod m14, a g36 (not the C version), or a sg550, or an m16. In any of these guns i would want to replace the barrel with a tightbore, put a 130/140 spring in (so i can use heavier bbs to get 400fps) and then replace bushings, piston, reinforced gearbox, etc and that is where the systema gearbox would come it because a full kit contains all of it.
"so i can use heavier bbs to get 400fps" the muzzle energy on most fields should be 400 ish with a .20. I would just take that 300 and upgrade that scar with a systema bucking and a 6.03 tbb. I can't remember what the scars shoot at but if it shoots at 370ish it should be around 400 with those upgrades, if you need more i would do put a oring air nozzle on it. I would use .28 bbs, pick which ever respectable brands you want. I'm no bb expert but that is the weight i would run in this setup. that would still leave you with 200 left over. How far are these long shots anyways?
Quote from: "Richthofen"the reason i am doing this is to have an accurate but high power aeg so is the m14 the best choice or would a different gun like an m16 be better...what im basing this off of is barrle length, and normally longer barrel=more accurate. Correct me if i am wrong
longer barrel doesn't mean more accurate, it is a combination of barrel, hopup bucking, nub, bb quality, and fps consistency. If this is your first aeg don't be expecting a whole lot for range. Example my master series mp5 cant touch out to 175 all day. So say after you spend all that time and energy upgrading a gun on the cheap the range you are going to get maybe 225 if you are lucky. Thats only a 50 foot difference. how fast can you cover 50 feet? If i was in your shoes i would just buy a e1 m16 plastic body with ris. It is light and wont fatigue you. The reason why so many people run ars is that everyone has the mags and sharing is nice. This suggestion is based off the assumption of this being your first aeg. Correct me if I'm wrong. this is just my opinion on what you should do. IF you want more insight go ahead and ask that is what the forum is here for.