I just got of the phone with a park ranger.   Here are the important points of our conversation...

* Since South Mountain Park is so popular, they dont want any people hiking off the set trails (like we would have to).

* The ranger also said that playing paintball at South Mountain Park is considerd an ACT OF VANDALISM.  South Mountain Park is also a reserve, so any activty that could damage the plants there, like bbs flying at 300+ fps from an airsoft gun could be considerd vandalism.

With that information in mind, please spread the word that no one should ever play airsoft at South Mountain Park.

The airsoft group I represent is planning a big game.  Just to give you an idea, most of us are highschool grads and college students between the ages of 18 and 25.  Right now we have 10-15 people that are planning on going and we are working on contacting more (one of the ways is posting on this forum []).  

The game will be on Sat. July 12 from 8:00am to about 2:00pm depending on the heat.  The loctaion is near the end of Pacos road on the outskirts of Phoenix, exact directions will be forth coming in later posts.  Unless you know of a better location, I will post exact directions by wends.

If you are planning on going:

*Bring lots of water.  We will have extra, but not enough for everyone.  It would really suck if we had to cancel after a few hours, please do your part.

*Sunscreen and a hat would be a good idea.

*We can pick up people from their houses and bring them to the location if needed (please contact me ASAP if that is the case).

*We dont screw around with safety.  I have extra goggles, but it is first come first serve, if we run out and you dont have any goggles there is NO WAY you can play.  Also, dont forget any essential accessories to you gun, we wont have any extra batteries or magazines.  

*If you are going to be an a** and cheat or go against mission objectives in an attempt to wreck our fun we will ask you to leave, or as a last resort remove you by force[^]  

*I will discuss our specific rules in later posts.  The first and most important rule is common sense.  

*This wont be a very "formal" game.  Some of you hardcore people out there might be dissapointed, so take this as your warning.  Most of us dont have "offical" uniforms and there will be no official scoring or ranking system.  None of us own 10 high cap mags and a 450-fps-totally-upgraded-super-gun.  We are not an official team.  We are just looking to have some laid back, but safe fun.

Here is how you can contact me:

Aaron Fielstone

email:  polar117@hotmail.com

home phone:  480-940-9845

Take care everyone and I hope to see some of you there.  If you are planning on going please call my house so we can get an approx. head count.  When you call ask for Dan or Aaron.

hmmm, i guess it isnt a money issue.  it must be hard to convince a venue owner to let you rent out a venue where you will play mock war games and litter the floor with thousands of plastic balls.  also, i found out the hard way that those damn bbs can make some major dents in dry wall.

i dont have any ideas right now, but maybe we can use this thread to discuss prospective sites for another CQB game.

ok, we just got our TM MP5A4 in the mail and it came with .25g bbs!  I thought .20g was the standard?

Over the past 5 years my family has got into shooting (skeet, target) and we own 8 real guns.  Some of my brothers friends have been into airsoft for about 6 months and my brother just bought his first springer rifle, so we thought that an AEG would be the next logical step.

There are a few things that attracted me to airsoft:

first, authenticity of the weapons.  I would say that a fully automatic MP5 is one of my dream guns, so that was a major draw.

second, health benifits.  in this day and age we all need to get out doors a little more and run around, so it seems like airsoft is a fun way to exercise.

finally, the cost of ammo.  if any of you are into real guns, you know that other than .22s and really cheap reload 9mm, quality ammo is generally very expensive.  when im unloading a magazine of bbs, it is nice to know that an entire 50rd magazine holds less than 25 cents worth of bbs.

ok, i know some of you must be cringing right now, but is it ok to put used bbs through a springer?  i wont risk it in my AEG, but i dont see any reason why i cant put used rounds (cleaned of course) through a springer.

ok, im going to admit it, NEWBIE ALERT.  

i live in chandler, my cross streets are ray and rural.  know any place near where I live that will sell a battery, charger and discharger?  if not, any cheap places on the net?  I have seen prices ranging form $30-$80 and I understand that one of the factors in the cost is the maH (higher is better, as i read in the newbie FAQ). So if I want to get a battery that is, say, maH 1700 I should expect to pay about $50 for the battery, $15 for a charger, $15 for a discharger.  Again, where the hell can I find a good deal in the valley?

Thanks.

i got a friend that works at home depot, he may be able to hook me up with  a good deal  ;-)