Would this work?

[deathbydanish]

This concept has in essence already happened.  Emigrants would come right off the boat from Ireland, England, and other parts of Europe to America and be told that if they want to be a citizen that they need to fight in WW1. actually this has been in effect since the mid 1860's (civil war) . So this concept is not entirely a new one.

Well when you put it that way. But from the Starship Troopers novel/film POV everything started out as it is now, some shit got ruined, and now only people who sign up to deal with said shit getting ruined can vote/hold office.

[Daedalus]

This concept has in essence already happened.  Emigrants would come right off the boat from Ireland, England, and other parts of Europe to America and be told that if they want to be a citizen that they need to fight in WW1. actually this has been in effect since the mid 1860's (civil war) . So this concept is not entirely a new one.

1860s? Becoming a soldier in order to gain citizenship has been around since Rome....

[Ivan]

we're talking US history.

[Cheeze_IZ_G00d]

Meh...as it is now, you don't even have to be an American citizen to vote (Prop 200, anyone?)... :roll:

You're kidding me right? If it literally means non-Americans can vote, then the potential for abuse is very high.

I think the point of a system of government like that is to prevent abuse, to prevent people from exploiting the right to vote or hold office.

Proposition 200 was passed by Arizona voters a couple years ago, and it basically requires AZ citizens to show proof of citizenship in order to register to vote or to collect public welfare benefits (like food stamps). It also requires people to show ID at the polls when they vote.  It took forever to actually to be implemented, and was recently suspended by the 9th Circuit Court in San Francisco (so much for the voice of the people :roll: ).   :cry:

We need all the voters we can get, US citizen or not. Hell, for as much as we love democracry in this country, not enough people vote for who they want to lead.

[deathbydanish]

Meh...as it is now, you don't even have to be an American citizen to vote (Prop 200, anyone?)... :roll:

You're kidding me right? If it literally means non-Americans can vote, then the potential for abuse is very high.

I think the point of a system of government like that is to prevent abuse, to prevent people from exploiting the right to vote or hold office.

Proposition 200 was passed by Arizona voters a couple years ago, and it basically requires AZ citizens to show proof of citizenship in order to register to vote or to collect public welfare benefits (like food stamps). It also requires people to show ID at the polls when they vote.  It took forever to actually to be implemented, and was recently suspended by the 9th Circuit Court in San Francisco (so much for the voice of the people :roll: ).   :cry:

We need all the voters we can get, US citizen or not. Hell, for as much as we love democracry in this country, not enough people vote for who they want to lead.

Damn what took you so long?

Anyway voting just for voting's sake doesn't sound like a good idea.

[dxh]

dBd: Indeed, I agree.  I don't vote on anything unless I've looked into the matter seriously.  Otherwise I abstain and leave the decision to people that cared to look into it thoroughly, as demonstrated in my latest blog entry on myspace.

[deathbydanish]

I didn't know we could vote "MEH", I think I'll go ahead and just start marking "MEH" for everything  :lol: