Airsoft Movie

[jarhead]

Alright since you put it that way, I'll try to convince you guys and explain.

This is a quality movie I want to make. It will take focus and a little dedication to get this done. It will require 2 days of recording. Most of you will only take part for 1 day.

If you have any ideas of where we can record, send me some photos. (not some ones back yard!) We will most likely record out in the desert northwest of Phoenix.

There is at least 6 main characters for the US and a lot of extras. The Iraqi's will be all extras. Uniforms are self provided. US is 3 color desert camo with black boots (most people dont have tan boots). Guns are self provided (obviously). US needs american weapons (M-16, M-4...ect), and Iraqi's will have russian weapons (AK-47's...ect)

This movie will be based on one (army) soldier's experince during the Iraq war in 2003. For more details on the plot contact me.

The most important people for this film is the camera crew. I need a crew! Also if you have any editing or special FX skills, contact me.

I will try to schedule a meeting. In the mean time if you have any more questions or ideas, post them. Or PM me or e-mail me at stinky_cheese101_1216_111@hotmail.com

Thank you!

[Sergeant First Class Keenan]

So your "movie is based on OIF I? What do you know as far as the invasion of Iraq? I mean not to bust your balls kid but you were like 11 years old when we rolled up through Nasiriyah.....

So I'll tell you what, I'll fill you in on a few things during the Invasion, we were issued DCU's but never wore them due to the pending "gas attack" instead everyone wore MOPP gear (level 2) in the traditonal woodland cammie.

The majority of ground pounders wore IBA's (again in woodland) with no SAPI plates, we didn't have 'em. it was a mix of old ALICE gear and new "issued" MOLLE gear. Remember back then nobody really cared about being a gear queer, and there wasn't 9 million tac gear companies to buy the that cool *tactical wallet* we had what we had and that was it.

NOBODY WORE BLACK BOOTS. period, ever. black boots last about a day in the sandbox, and will cook your feet.  

I only know of a few times non uniformed combatives - "insurgents" engadged allied forces, There just wasn't many and the ones engaged and killed were either fedaydeen, or syrian nationals.

Also the vast majority of combat was during convoys either up ambush alley or through the british AO and up the tigris river. I'm not saying there was no engagments in the wide open desert, but....... 3rd ID didn't really mix it up till they secured BIAP. Until then the very vast majority of combat action was either in convoy or going through towns/vills. of course after the disaster in Nasiriyah (we lost alot of good Marines) all towns were bipassed and just bombed from the air. I don't have the time to explain this deeper.

Again I'm not trying to shoot holes in your movie asperations but I doubt you really understand your medium. You either may want to change the time frame of your project or even the location, as in A-stan, there is alot more foot patrol combat there, The invasion of Iraq was Mech and I doubt you can get 300 veh convoy's and have a firefight as well. hell why not just make it in the not so distant future.

Anyway good luck.

[Sergeant First Class Keenan]

Oh and my pic in my signature is OIF III not the invasion.

And another thing I know for a fact you haven't stepped on yellow footprints let alone climbed the reaper. I'm glad if you may want to try and become a Marine some day till then you don't rate to call yourself "Jarhead". Maybe change it to Devil Pup or something like that.

Remember there's a reason civilain's can't buy our digi cammies with the EGA in the uniform. You haven't earned it.

Again not diggin in your ass but Marine nicknames belong to Marines.

[Nil8r]

This brings up a good point - Stay in your lane and make a movie about something you know about or some imaginary situation, because someone that's been there and done that will pick it apart and discredit the entire thing in just a few short sentences.

[jarhead]

Thanks guys for the heads up. I dont really know anything about the begining of the war in Iraq. The internet sucks butt at giving me info. Please PM me and give true info about the first parts of the invation. By the way, I am going army, so my name has nothing to do with me. I dont know how to change it, so bear with me.

Thank you

[Sergeant First Class Keenan]

Well from what unit's eyes are you doing this movie from? which branch of service? I'm assuming since you want an open desert kind of look you'd being going with 3rd ID or supporting elements, who went up through the open desert and on into Baghdad from the west.

But like I said you should look at exploring other options as far what time line you want to shoot this in....... Your not gonna get the right look and feel.

Really what you should do is get some books on the Invasion there's at least 100 different books out there! I'd recomend "Ambush Alley", "Generation Kill", or the book about my unit "The March Up" all those books are more of the Marine Corps experince and each is about 1st Mar Div's battle to Baghdad, but each is written from a different view point. Also there are alot more books about the 82nd, 3rd ID, and the 101st written as well, if what your looking for is the Soldier's perspective.

Remember your script is gonna need to be written the way warriors speak, and trust me it isn't "ghost recon 2" or "saving pvt ryan" you need to know the accronyms, the jargon, like Marine's aren't called Soldiers, and nobody calls a Sgt, "Sarg"........

But as I said unless you can get MOPP gear, everyone armed with an M16A2 (very very very few M4's during the push up) with a few SAW's, 50 cal's, MK-19's, a few hummvee's and a couple of 5 tons at the minimum, anyone who knows is gonna see right through your movie.

Thats why I really think you should make up a fictional story in the not so distant future.

Or maybe contact a few of our other National Guard Soldiers that post here about A-stan. They can better describe the sitiuation going on there, maybe give you some idea's. And of course pick up some books and learn your medium.

Trying to make a real movie based off something like this with zero knowledge and resouces is a bad idea.

[jarhead]

This is why I want your help. I dont want this movie to look like a made up story about Iraq. I want to make it as true as possible. Mabe I could change it to marine. I will take a look at those books and get an idea.

Thanks for your help!

[chris]

I don't think he is volunteering his help, i think he is telling you to go out and do RESEARCH. Sorry, a movie is not going to be handed to you on a silver platter, u gotta work if u want it to be good. You have to know what they were going through in detail and then re-enact as if you were one of those soldiers, what they were wearing, eating , feeling, shooting, etc.

I suggest you do a little work on your own and stop being dependant on other people.

[GUNFIGHTER6]

Consider this, how many times do you see hollywood make movies about historical events these days?  Not very often compared to the completely fictional ones.  Every considered why?  Probably becuase with movies based on historical events, it can be difficult if not impossible to convey the situation acurately.  Also consider that the ones that do a good job of it, Saving Private Ryan, Black Hawk down, We Were Soldiers, etc had large budgets, and access to resources that you will not.  

This may sound discouraging, and like people are picking on you, but it's not.  Veterans more than any other group are sticklers for accuracy with movies like the one you propose.

[semiaquaticeel]

You should make it on another event. The invasion was mainly convoys moving to bagdad, and I don't think you have enough M1A2's, HMMWV's,
HEMTT's, or M2A2's to replicate the invasion realisticly.