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Offline Harley

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« Reply #15 on: August 12, 2003, 06:41:38 AM »
Just in case you guys couldn't read the text that was on the page I cropped it and enlarged it.  This doesn't necessarily mean it's valid though.


 
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« Reply #16 on: August 12, 2003, 08:33:31 AM »
Yes, it does say that, but it isn't correct.  I should have found a picture series without that info.  If you watch the link to the video, you will see just how incorrect/wrong that caption is.  You can even hear the cameraman 'praising Allah'.
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« Reply #17 on: August 12, 2003, 08:56:59 AM »
In the video you can hear all kinds of small arms fire as well.  I would imagine that there were more troups involved as well.
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« Reply #18 on: August 12, 2003, 09:12:15 AM »
Wow, a lot of discussion over this! Personally, I try not to beleive anything I read in the press. You never know if they are reporting accurately or not. Not to say that they are lying, I just mean that they are sometimes given bad info.
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« Reply #19 on: August 12, 2003, 03:51:09 PM »
Like I said before, the men who carry out the attacks will not recicieve payment (whether thay are mercs or not) until they provide proof of the attack.  They could just be chechen farmers or other guys not necessarily soldiers that carry out the attacks for an extra buck.  They could be soldiers, they could be mercs.  All it said is that they do not get paid until proof is provided.  I don't understand all the specualtion!  They could use it as propaganda, but that would entail showing it to large numbers of people, as is the nature of propaganda.  It could just be the guy wants it chronicled so he can show his kids (if he lives that long).  

Wolf, no one ever said they are just a group of mercs, but mercenaries are a favorite choice of soldier for both sides.  It does not mean they are ALL mercs, but they are definitely present!  In case you STILL don't believe me:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/chechnya/Stor ... 60,00.html
read the third paragraph, evidence of mercs.

http://www.rense.com/general31/chch.htm
consider the source, but more leading to the fact that mercs are very present on that battlefield.

http://emperors-clothes.com/cos/chechen.htm

And you guys think I make this stuff up :)

Pancho, I wrote my English Humanities Thesis paper about media bias in the middle east conflict.  There is so much of it, I decided to take my news from no less than three sources before deciding what to believe.  You would be surprised (or perhaps not) by the ammount of biased information coming our way from such "reliable" news sources such as CNN, MSNBC, ABC, etc.  A conspiracy theorist I am not, but be skeptical before you believe what is handed to you by the media.
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« Reply #20 on: August 12, 2003, 04:51:21 PM »
Ah, such wisdom at your age.  I've been a conspiracy believer for a long time.  Government, media, JFK, Aliens, it's all the same.  Lies, deceit, trechery!
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« Reply #21 on: August 13, 2003, 09:16:44 AM »
"Lies!  All LIES!!"
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« Reply #22 on: August 13, 2003, 10:09:31 AM »
When it comes to media, I am a BIG skeptic. You never know what to believe.
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« Reply #23 on: August 13, 2003, 11:05:08 AM »
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by azsarge</i>
<br />"Lies!  All LIES!!"
-Frau Farbissina
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<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

We'll save that one for another thread Austin!
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« Reply #24 on: August 11, 2003, 11:19:31 AM »
**Warning:  possibly disturbing pictures**

http://www.funtigo.com/go/o1216692?i=o1216692_37862.jpg

EDIT:  Despite what the picture says, this is actually a group of Russian solders that were attacked/ambushed by Chechen rebels.
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