SNIPER?

[SARC]

I have a highly upgraded (to the tune of $700+)L-96 that chronos over 550 with .2.  I, on a very still cool day can hit a man sized target out to 290'-300' with a .40 30%ish of the time, so not reliably.   If there is the slightest wind, ie. ANY wind, it's over. So cost verses effectiveness is a very diminishing return.  Plus if you really want to fill the Sniper role in airsoft, get a good set of binoculars and a good radio, find a good spot to observe from and call enemy movement to you units.  Its much more effective to walk your guys up on the bad guys who don't know they're coming.

[Whiskey11]

I can throw a bb off a 300ft building and say I got a 300ft shot, therefore a level field is implied.

I saw a youtube video of an l96 owner saying he was shooting out to 300ft at 550fps with 0.36g bbs, but there was no impact view so therefore I doubt it. (also at higher fps than was stated, I meant the BS call more directed at the 500ft range but I also would love to see someone put a game legal fps bb past 300ft, but that will never happen)

Anyway this is getting off topic... I have an APS-2 in my possession that is a fiend's. I will see what I can do to upgrade it and get some concrete numbers for this mama-jama.

Like I said in my first post, the point here is not the comment about getting a BB passed 300 feet, it's about doing it with accuracy, which is the actuall challenge.  I have full confidence that if I hold over a target at a 30* angle that it could very well reach 300 feet, and at a field legal FPS too (455 w/.20's ).  Practical, no, hardly, but there have been some changes to my M14, and I'm willing to give it a good shot.  Maybe not at 100 yards, but to see how far I can back up and still retain some semblence of accuracy.  Right now thats about 75-80 yards.  Not too shabby for at the time what was a mostly stock G&G M14 Veteran.

[carbon14c]

if you really want to fill the Sniper role in airsoft, get a good set of binoculars and a good radio, find a good spot to observe from and call enemy movement to you units.  Its much more effective to walk your guys up on the bad guys who don't know they're coming.

agreed. a "true sniper" is just as effective with a set of optics and a radio then he is with his rifle

[Crono0001]

Back to the topic:

http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.p ... ts_id=6572

This one here looks promising.  A field ready sniper ready to go out of the box.

[carbon14c]

i spent $60 about a year ago on a VSR-10 clone that shoots 470 FPS with .20's, its actually a really nice rifle.


could definitely use a improved inner barrel, bipod, and a new hop-up. but out of box... it performs really well. other people use it more then i do, i have only used it once in-game but i was very happy with the performance

i cant remember the make.. let me search

..here it is, im pretty sure at least

http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.p ... ts_id=1898

[Rogue Fox]

Back to the topic:

http://www.airsoftgi.com/product_info.p ... ts_id=6572

This one here looks promising.  A field ready sniper ready to go out of the box.

I own one. For the money its a good rifle. Ive only been able to field it once so far but overall im pleased. Its pretty much just a well L96 with a body kit though.

[SARC]

I can throw a bb off a 300ft building and say I got a 300ft shot, therefore a level field is implied.

I saw a youtube video of an l96 owner saying he was shooting out to 300ft at 550fps with 0.36g bbs, but there was no impact view so therefore I doubt it. (also at higher fps than was stated, I meant the BS call more directed at the 500ft range but I also would love to see someone put a game legal fps bb past 300ft, but that will never happen)

Anyway this is getting off topic... I have an APS-2 in my possession that is a fiend's. I will see what I can do to upgrade it and get some concrete numbers for this mama-jama.

Like I said in my first post, the point here is not the comment about getting a BB passed 300 feet, it's about doing it with accuracy, which is the actuall challenge.  I have full confidence that if I hold over a target at a 30* angle that it could very well reach 300 feet, and at a field legal FPS too (455 w/.20's ).  Practical, no, hardly, but there have been some changes to my M14, and I'm willing to give it a good shot.  Maybe not at 100 yards, but to see how far I can back up and still retain some semblence of accuracy.  Right now thats about 75-80 yards.  Not too shabby for at the time what was a mostly stock G&G M14 Veteran.

your not going to be able to accomplish predictable holds with an airsoft bb. They have the ballistics coefficient of a marshmallow.

[Whiskey11]

I can throw a bb off a 300ft building and say I got a 300ft shot, therefore a level field is implied.

I saw a youtube video of an l96 owner saying he was shooting out to 300ft at 550fps with 0.36g bbs, but there was no impact view so therefore I doubt it. (also at higher fps than was stated, I meant the BS call more directed at the 500ft range but I also would love to see someone put a game legal fps bb past 300ft, but that will never happen)

Anyway this is getting off topic... I have an APS-2 in my possession that is a fiend's. I will see what I can do to upgrade it and get some concrete numbers for this mama-jama.

Like I said in my first post, the point here is not the comment about getting a BB passed 300 feet, it's about doing it with accuracy, which is the actuall challenge.  I have full confidence that if I hold over a target at a 30* angle that it could very well reach 300 feet, and at a field legal FPS too (455 w/.20's ).  Practical, no, hardly, but there have been some changes to my M14, and I'm willing to give it a good shot.  Maybe not at 100 yards, but to see how far I can back up and still retain some semblence of accuracy.  Right now thats about 75-80 yards.  Not too shabby for at the time what was a mostly stock G&G M14 Veteran.

your not going to be able to accomplish predictable holds with an airsoft bb. They have the ballistics coefficient of a marshmallow.

I feel like I'm repeating myself here... when I was refering to holding 30* over the target I was refering to JUST reaching 300 feet, not reaching 300 feet with accuracy.  The point I'm trying to make is that it's quite easy to get a high FPS gun to 300 feet, it's far more difficult to do it with any form of accuracy...

[SARC]

I can throw a bb off a 300ft building and say I got a 300ft shot, therefore a level field is implied.

I saw a youtube video of an l96 owner saying he was shooting out to 300ft at 550fps with 0.36g bbs, but there was no impact view so therefore I doubt it. (also at higher fps than was stated, I meant the BS call more directed at the 500ft range but I also would love to see someone put a game legal fps bb past 300ft, but that will never happen)

Anyway this is getting off topic... I have an APS-2 in my possession that is a fiend's. I will see what I can do to upgrade it and get some concrete numbers for this mama-jama.

Like I said in my first post, the point here is not the comment about getting a BB passed 300 feet, it's about doing it with accuracy, which is the actuall challenge.  I have full confidence that if I hold over a target at a 30* angle that it could very well reach 300 feet, and at a field legal FPS too (455 w/.20's ).  Practical, no, hardly, but there have been some changes to my M14, and I'm willing to give it a good shot.  Maybe not at 100 yards, but to see how far I can back up and still retain some semblence of accuracy.  Right now thats about 75-80 yards.  Not too shabby for at the time what was a mostly stock G&G M14 Veteran.

your not going to be able to accomplish predictable holds with an airsoft bb. They have the ballistics coefficient of a marshmallow.

I feel like I'm repeating myself here... when I was refering to holding 30* over the target I was refering to JUST reaching 300 feet, not reaching 300 feet with accuracy.  The point I'm trying to make is that it's quite easy to get a high FPS gun to 300 feet, it's far more difficult to do it with any form of accuracy...

Read your own post:"Like I said in my first post, the point here is not the comment about getting a BB passed 300 feet, it's about doing it with accuracy, which is the actuall challenge.  I have full confidence that if I hold over a target at a 30* angle that it could very well reach 300 feet, and at a field legal FPS too (455 w/.20's )."

[Whiskey11]

Read your own post:"Like I said in my first post, the point here is not the comment about getting a BB passed 300 feet, it's about doing it with accuracy, which is the actuall challenge. I have full confidence that if I hold over a target at a 30* angle that it could very well reach 300 feet, and at a field legal FPS too (455 w/.20's )."

Maybe you should read the entirety of that quote?  I even moved your red text so you can see a little better that I didnt say it was easy...

[SARC]

Read your own post:"Like I said in my first post, the point here is not the comment about getting a BB passed 300 feet, it's about doing it with accuracy, which is the actuall challenge. I have full confidence that if I hold over a target at a 30* angle that it could very well reach 300 feet, and at a field legal FPS too (455 w/.20's )."

Maybe you should read the entirety of that quote?  I even moved your red text so you can see a little better that I didnt say it was easy...

I did read your entire post and no it is not easy, it is not possible to obtain accuracy with a round non rifled object moving at current game legal fps limits to obtain the kind of shot you are talking about.  You may be able to optimize a airsoft gun to perform well but you will not obtain what you are talking about.

[Whiskey11]

Read your own post:"Like I said in my first post, the point here is not the comment about getting a BB passed 300 feet, it's about doing it with accuracy, which is the actuall challenge. I have full confidence that if I hold over a target at a 30* angle that it could very well reach 300 feet, and at a field legal FPS too (455 w/.20's )."

Maybe you should read the entirety of that quote?  I even moved your red text so you can see a little better that I didnt say it was easy...

I did read your entire post and no it is not easy, it is not possible to obtain accuracy with a round non rifled object moving at current game legal fps limits to obtain the kind of shot you are talking about.  You may be able to optimize a airsoft gun to perform well but you will not obtain what you are talking about.

Hence why I said it was a challenge....  and I dont take no for an answer, if I did, I would have sold my ICS right away when Vince told me ICS sucks.... too bad I didnt