Yea i think it is the outer barrel, i took the RIS off and the barrel still wobbles, the Delta ring is fine and the screwa are all tightened. But ill take down a list of those parts and go to JT and see if i cant get some parts from there this weekend, and thanks again for your advice, and PM me your location maybe you could take a look at it, and give me your thoughts, well thanks again, well later, Jags87