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« on: July 01, 2003, 09:01:34 PM »
Apparently Mauri made a completley now gearbox based off of I think the original M4. They did a great job getting rid of that "creak" common to some early Mauri AEG's including the first Sig series. They added a front rail underneath the forward grip much like the G36C (Is this a new trend?). The gun looks like it may also be a bit shorter for CQC use but that's just a guess on my part. Wait for Arnie's to do a good review on it before you go out buying it. It could be a great sucess like the G36C or a near failure like the much vaunted M733.
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« Reply #1 on: July 01, 2003, 10:43:59 PM »
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Pheonix 797</i>
<br />They did a great job getting rid of that "creak" common to some early Mauri AEG's
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Sorry - I just HAVE to ask how you know this - especially since the AEG hasn't been released to ANYONE yet...
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« Reply #2 on: July 02, 2003, 07:10:36 AM »
What "creak" is he referring to?
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« Reply #3 on: July 02, 2003, 08:10:39 AM »
I assumed it to mean the body flex that exists on AEG's like the SG/1, SG550 - longer guns where the stressed parts (where barrel meets receiver) that are plastic on plastic "squeak" a bit when in use...   a bit of strategically placed electrical tape usually fixes it though (or upgrading to a metal body).  Though I have NO idea how he concluded that Marui "fixed" this "problem" on the SG552 since it's not even been released yet for anyone to review.
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« Reply #4 on: July 02, 2003, 03:09:50 PM »
As a former Sig owner, the folding stock tended to 'creak' when opened and locked into position. It never really bothered me, but apparantly it bothers a lot of folks. There are a lot of complaints about this in the various websites. My only complaint, and the reason I sold it, was battery life. I must be hard on batteries!
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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2003, 04:32:07 PM »
I'm also curious as to how you know that Marui made an entirely new gearbox?  It is my understanding that they're using the V.3 in the Sig.  I think they know that it is a superior design, so it doesn't seem to make sense that they'd start over (much less bother with the V.2 anymore)
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« Reply #6 on: July 04, 2003, 11:47:00 PM »
I have a friend who just visited Tokyo. He loves real-steal sigs and actually has one in Utah. I'm go'n off of what he told me, but I could be wrong about the gearbox... I'm pretty sure they got rid of the creak though.
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« Reply #7 on: July 05, 2003, 01:11:48 PM »
I have to cry foul here...  The SG552 hasn't been released - whether you're in Tokyo, Hong Kong, Germany, the USA, or Antarctica - it's not out yet, so there is no way anyone can make conclusions like that.  Sounds like someone is passing around BS...
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« Reply #8 on: July 05, 2003, 02:27:38 PM »
LOL Paco...

Isn't there an upgrade kit that's been out for a while, that turns a regular Sig 550 into the shorty (552) version? Seems to me I've seen one somewhere...
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« Reply #9 on: July 05, 2003, 02:32:11 PM »
Answering my own question! Den Trinity has 552's that they've custom made. It says they have them in stock. I know I've seen these for some time now. I beleive they also sell the parts to ugrade a 550. I'm not sure what other ugrades they've done to them other than barrell/furniture, but they have them.
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« Reply #10 on: July 05, 2003, 03:59:22 PM »
Well, that kit has been around for a while, but we're referring to the complete gun that Marui is making, the Sig 552 "seals".  The previous 552 kit was rather undesirable because it really just helped externally.  Same as putting a lamborgini body kit on a pinto... it'll still run like a pinto.  The completely new one is *hopefully* a big improvement.
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« Reply #11 on: July 06, 2003, 06:24:22 AM »
Aaaahhh, I understand now. Does anyone know what the differences are, other than the barrell/furniture and the gearbox that everyone is talking about? I know it needed some BIG help in that area! Still gonna use the same battery set up? Has anyone seen any reviews on it?
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« Reply #12 on: July 06, 2003, 01:10:33 PM »
Go here for a pic of it:
http://www.airsoftarizona.com/forums/to ... IC_ID=1523

Here is some more info from TH:
The background for SIG SG552 SEALS comes from the limitations of standard M4/M16 rifles(which are standard assault rifles for US military forces) in range and accuracy. The Swiss made SG55 series are regarded as one of the most accurate assault rifles in the world, so no wonder that some firearm experts favor these rifles over the M4/M16 series.

SG552 is the latest model of the SG55 series. This shortened model is used by US Navy SEALS and it uses standard 5.56mm Nato round. When SEALs adapted MP5 they asked Heckler & Koch to remove the burst-function, because they didn't need it. SEALs asked SIG to remove burst-function as well as requesting material changes to SG552 to improve it's resistance to rust. In this Tokyo Marui's electric gun that particular special feature has been imitated with new dark-grey coating.

For the electric gun SG552 SEALS has 20mm mount on both sides of the handguard as well as see-through magazine, which now has realistic replica bullets. New muzzle (which is beneath the flash hider) can easily adapt silencer and it current standard for Tokyo Marui(for Pro silencers). SG552 has completely new battery type , which is slimmer so that it can be attached inside smaller handguard.

Chamber is, for the first time in electric gun history, made of metal (as it appears to us), which might improve the hop up mechanism and will definitely improve the durability. There will be less wobble unlike in earlier SG550 and SG551. Motor has been changed to EG1000, the best in Marui series.

The folding stock has been reinforced from inside to make it more durable, while butt plate has been added for improved hold.

Handguard cap has been introduced for the first time to improve the authentic look of the gun and the shape of the cocking lever has been changed as well.

Interestingly, SG552 will have additional accessory which is new type of quick magazine loader that has been molded in the shape of pistol magazine.

The changes appear to be cosmetic at first in SG552 SEALS, but closer inspection reveal new electric gun which has new electric gun design features that were first started in G36C and are now featured in all Tokyo Marui new electric guns.
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« Reply #13 on: July 07, 2003, 06:16:39 PM »
So basically the fact that the SG552 SEALS is made of the same wonderful materials as the G36C, then it's already an improvement on the older SG series. The pegs on the mags will probably be stronger. So any SG owners will most likely be able to use the improved mags.
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« Reply #14 on: June 27, 2003, 10:20:53 PM »
Anyone got any info on the new SIG 552 being any good? thanks
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