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Offline ColinBT1994

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Increase ROF
« on: June 17, 2008, 06:16:33 PM »
Okay, I know that a better motor increases ROF, but what motor will make my Classic Army M14 shoot at its fastest? Im going to convert it into a DP-28, and I need to get its ROF up, considering the DP (for those who don't know) is a fast-shooting LMG.
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Re: Increase ROF
« Reply #1 on: June 17, 2008, 06:18:23 PM »
11.1 Lipo and hs gears.
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Re: Increase ROF
« Reply #2 on: June 17, 2008, 06:46:52 PM »
A Systema Turbo motor would probably put you at the limit for how fast your feeding system can feed.
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Re: Increase ROF
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2008, 03:40:30 PM »
Alright thanks man
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Re: Increase ROF
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2008, 03:41:33 PM »
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A Systema Turbo motor would probably put you at the limit for how fast your feeding system can feed.

I heard a shorter barrel helps but I dunno.
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Re: Increase ROF
« Reply #5 on: June 18, 2008, 11:02:10 PM »
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I heard a shorter barrel helps but I dunno.

I dont see how this has anything to do with ROF...
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Re: Increase ROF
« Reply #6 on: June 22, 2008, 09:44:31 AM »
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I heard a shorter barrel helps but I dunno.

I dont see how this has anything to do with ROF...

I thought the theory on that was that a shorter barrel doesn't have as much air to suck in/expel when the piston cycles as a longer barrel does. Don't quote me on this but that's something that seemed to pop out in my mind when I read that.
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Re: Increase ROF
« Reply #7 on: June 22, 2008, 12:49:15 PM »
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A Systema Turbo motor would probably put you at the limit for how fast your feeding system can feed.

I heard a shorter barrel helps but I dunno.
I thought that was more for real AR's. the ROF increases on full auto because the gas tube is shorter in length, causing a higher pressure in the gas system. It's not an issue if the AR is equipped with a short stroke gas piston system i believe, or at least not as prevalent.
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Re: Increase ROF
« Reply #8 on: June 22, 2008, 04:55:39 PM »
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I thought the theory on that was that a shorter barrel doesn't have as much air to suck in/expel when the piston cycles as a longer barrel does. Don't quote me on this but that's something that seemed to pop out in my mind when I read that.
Before stating my second sentence, let it be known: that is not true of an airsoft gun, and the length of barrel does not affect rate of fire at all.
My second sentence: in days past, when AEGs were almost all built with piston heads that did not have venting holes for unidirectional air flow, this was partially true.  Marui designed a piston head with great air compression, but had a problem with back-suction, so to alleviate the problem, they put a hole in the cylinder that left enough air volume to propel the BB out of the barrel (the hole positioned farther back for longer barrels, or no hole at all) but allowing the suction cup effect to only exist within the front area of the cylinder.  So, cylinders with no ventilated cylinder (for long barrels) got more back suction, SLIGHTLY decreasing the rate of fire.  So, in other words, in stock Marui's this is PARTIALLY true, but most guns now have unidirectional piston heads, so it's not even an issue.  Why do they still put holes in cylinders?  No explanation for that one, considering there is no negative effects of having a solid bore cylinder with any length of barrel.  I don't know if that was too much information, but there you have it, all the same.
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Re: Increase ROF
« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2008, 09:11:26 PM »
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I thought the theory on that was that a shorter barrel doesn't have as much air to suck in/expel when the piston cycles as a longer barrel does. Don't quote me on this but that's something that seemed to pop out in my mind when I read that.
Before stating my second sentence, let it be known: that is not true of an airsoft gun, and the length of barrel does not affect rate of fire at all.
My second sentence: in days past, when AEGs were almost all built with piston heads that did not have venting holes for unidirectional air flow, this was partially true.  Marui designed a piston head with great air compression, but had a problem with back-suction, so to alleviate the problem, they put a hole in the cylinder that left enough air volume to propel the BB out of the barrel (the hole positioned farther back for longer barrels, or no hole at all) but allowing the suction cup effect to only exist within the front area of the cylinder.  So, cylinders with no ventilated cylinder (for long barrels) got more back suction, SLIGHTLY decreasing the rate of fire.  So, in other words, in stock Marui's this is PARTIALLY true, but most guns now have unidirectional piston heads, so it's not even an issue.  Why do they still put holes in cylinders?  No explanation for that one, considering there is no negative effects of having a solid bore cylinder with any length of barrel.  I don't know if that was too much information, but there you have it, all the same.
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Thanks for clearing that up, I wasn't even sure where I had read what I had posted earlier.
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