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Re: G&G 98k????
« Reply #15 on: March 28, 2011, 11:46:35 PM »
If you're still able to get 10 shots for a bolt action rifle, that's not bad (not great either).

I can't tell from the pictures above.  Are those canisters going in the magazine or rifle?
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Re: G&G 98k????
« Reply #16 on: March 29, 2011, 12:05:21 AM »
Quote from: "Crono0001"
If you're still able to get 10 shots for a bolt action rifle, that's not bad (not great either).

I can't tell from the pictures above.  Are those canisters going in the magazine or rifle?

Once again, we aren't worried about the total number of shots you can get.  You'd probably get 60 shots out of a single powerlet.  I don't know the capacity of the mag on the Kar98 but M700's are 10-30rds depending on magazine.  They did 15 rounds on that gun, so lets call that one magazine's worth of shots.  They demonstrated a 130fps variance, but since gas sniper rifles are usually about 600fps vs the 400-ish of that gun, lets go with 150fps variance out of a gas sniper rifle.  That's going to be about a 50 foot range variance on your gun (based off the ATP).  That's going to make it damn hard to hit a target past 200 feet since you have no way of knowing before hand which end of the spectrum you are going to get.
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Re: G&G 98k????
« Reply #17 on: March 29, 2011, 12:43:34 AM »
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If you're still able to get 10 shots for a bolt action rifle, that's not bad (not great either).

I can't tell from the pictures above.  Are those canisters going in the magazine or rifle?

Once again, we aren't worried about the total number of shots you can get.  You'd probably get 60 shots out of a single powerlet.  I don't know the capacity of the mag on the Kar98 but M700's are 10-30rds depending on magazine.  They did 15 rounds on that gun, so lets call that one magazine's worth of shots.  They demonstrated a 130fps variance, but since gas sniper rifles are usually about 600fps vs the 400-ish of that gun, lets go with 150fps variance out of a gas sniper rifle.  That's going to be about a 50 foot range variance on your gun (based off the ATP).  That's going to make it damn hard to hit a target past 200 feet since you have no way of knowing before hand which end of the spectrum you are going to get.

Couldn't the variance be due to the design of the gun, though?  If you look at the PX4 storm, the standard deviation is much much smaller, as is the total range.  Maybe G&G won't have such a badly designed gun?
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Re: G&G 98k????
« Reply #18 on: March 29, 2011, 07:26:55 AM »
They can certainly do better than that Desert Eagle, but they can't get around the problem.  The reservoir is too small.
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Re: G&G 98k????
« Reply #19 on: March 29, 2011, 08:35:12 AM »
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They can certainly do better than that Desert Eagle, but they can't get around the problem.  The reservoir is too small.

Those pellet pistols are shooting .117 pellets, which can weigh > .45g
If we're launching .20g bbs, we don't need FPS to be that high.  Maybe they can decrease the amount of gas that goes into each shot?


.117 pellet weight chart
http://www.airgunningatlanta.com/Assets ... chart.html
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Re: G&G 98k????
« Reply #20 on: March 29, 2011, 09:38:28 PM »
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They can certainly do better than that Desert Eagle, but they can't get around the problem.  The reservoir is too small.

Those pellet pistols are shooting .117 pellets, which can weigh > .45g
If we're launching .20g bbs, we don't need FPS to be that high.  Maybe they can decrease the amount of gas that goes into each shot?


.117 pellet weight chart
http://www.airgunningatlanta.com/Assets ... chart.html

The FPS of gas sniper rifles is generally 500-600fps with .20's, not that you'd be using .20's.  If you go much lower than that, you aren't going to get much of a range advantage.
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