Author Topic: BB Measurements  (Read 10933 times)

Offline nukeduster

  • Trade Count: (+8)
  • Sergeant Major
  • *****
  • Posts: 713
    • View Profile
Re: BB Measurements
« Reply #30 on: November 24, 2010, 03:06:43 AM »
Removed til I measure with different instrument.
« Last Edit: November 24, 2010, 02:10:20 PM by nukeduster »

Offline axisofoil

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 1284
    • View Profile
Re: BB Measurements
« Reply #31 on: November 24, 2010, 12:29:40 PM »
Quote from: "nukeduster"
Been a while since anyone updated this, wanted to show some measurements I got from a few batches of BB's I had.

I utilized as closely as possible Raiths methodology of measuring the BB's. All measurements in MM.

Echo1 .25g BB's

1. 5.96 5.97 5.97
2. 5.97 5.95 5.96
3. 5.97 5.97 5.98
4. 5.96 5.96 5.97
5. 5.97 5.96 5.98

Averages:

1. 5.966 should be 5.967
2. 5.960
3. 5.966   should be 5.977
4. 5.963
5. 5.970

A. What's the precision of your calipers? I can almost guarantee it is NOT +/- .005mm like the sigfigs in your measurements indicate. To get measurements like that, you need to be using either the most expensive, best quality calipers (which are very rarely digital, fwiw), or a micrometer.

Also, one of your averages are a bit off... and one has a rounding error.

and... your statistical reduction can't have 4 sigfig accuracy when your data only had 3... raith's were a bit confusing on this, but his measurements actually had much greater precision than yours based on his measurements, so it's not quite as bad since his extra sig figs were in the 100,000ths place instead of the 1000ths.

So:  a more correct reduction of your data, assuming your caliper is precise to +/- .005mm,
1. 5.97
2. 5.96
3. 5.98
4. 5.96
5. 5.97

Overall average: 5.97mm. Error of twice the stated tolerance.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline nukeduster

  • Trade Count: (+8)
  • Sergeant Major
  • *****
  • Posts: 713
    • View Profile
Re: BB Measurements
« Reply #32 on: November 24, 2010, 02:08:16 PM »
Yea, its accurate to .02mm, guess I should have made sure it was accurate enough to do a worthwhile measurement. :P


I was up for 24 hours writing a paper, thought of it randomly and thought I'd be helpful. oh well.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline XavierMace

  • Site Admin
  • Administrator
  • Trade Count: (+16)
  • Major General
  • *****
  • Posts: 2906
    • View Profile
    • http://www.xaviermace.com
Re: BB Measurements
« Reply #33 on: November 24, 2010, 04:04:04 PM »
While the effort is appreciated, a .02mm margin of error makes the data all but useless in this case.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline Raith

  • Wait, what?
  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Major General
  • *****
  • Posts: 2289
    • View Profile
Re: BB Measurements
« Reply #34 on: November 24, 2010, 06:23:23 PM »
Quote from: "axisofoil"
raith's were a bit confusing on this, but his measurements actually had much greater precision than yours based on his measurements, so it's not quite as bad since his extra sig figs were in the 100,000ths place instead of the 1000ths.

Looking at it now, I'm not sure why I did that.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by Guest »
Live free or die: Death is not the worst of evils.


Offline axisofoil

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Colonel
  • *****
  • Posts: 1284
    • View Profile
Re: BB Measurements
« Reply #35 on: November 24, 2010, 07:51:06 PM »
Quote from: "nukeduster"
Yea, its accurate to .02mm, guess I should have made sure it was accurate enough to do a worthwhile measurement. :P


I was up for 24 hours writing a paper, thought of it randomly and thought I'd be helpful. oh well.

Thank you for the effort. We need more people willing to go the extra .02mm more often in this community.

I just wanted to be sure of any measurements I take in as knowledge.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline kman94

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sergeant Major
  • *****
  • Posts: 523
    • View Profile
Re: BB Measurements
« Reply #36 on: March 08, 2011, 11:43:08 PM »
Too much smart person talk here... I'm gonna go back to the non-smart person half of AA.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by Guest »

Offline INFIDEL

  • Trade Count: (+5)
  • Sergeant First Class
  • *****
  • Posts: 325
  • You can never have to many mags.
    • View Profile
Re: BB Measurements
« Reply #37 on: May 17, 2012, 12:35:21 AM »
Hey Raith, you must be a hardcore BB Guns enthusiast to actually do this yourself! Congrats mate! :)

Please check the date of the last post before posting on a thread. If its over a year old dont post.
PLUGGING MY SALE THREAD WITHOUT SHAME!
http://www.airsoftarizona.com/index.php?topic=33078.0
On Field Callsign: Rig
Freelancer Airsoft Group - FLAG

Offline theFlyingTrumpet

  • Trade Count: (+5)
  • Sergeant Major
  • *****
  • Posts: 552
    • View Profile
Re: BB Measurements
« Reply #38 on: May 17, 2012, 09:18:28 AM »

Please check the date of the last post before posting on a thread. If its over a year old dont post.

I dunno, this is an interesting thread I've never seen before. I don't see a problem. If it were an argument however on whether or not JG or E1 makes the best m4, then yes, please refrain from posting.
Mazatzal Security Solutions - MSS Airsoft Team
"Medic! Medic! ......GINGY!!!!"

Offline Rockit

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Master Sergeant
  • *****
  • Posts: 441
  • Wes The Rocketman
    • View Profile
Re: BB Measurements
« Reply #39 on: May 17, 2012, 09:44:12 AM »
Bioval anyone?
Harmful heat in my hugs hide,My lips are laced with cyanide
Never mind my medicine breath,Come hither for a kiss of Death...
Where there once were feely fingers, Now protrude poisonous stingers
Feel I'm left with no recourse,But to kill her with no remorse

Offline INFIDEL

  • Trade Count: (+5)
  • Sergeant First Class
  • *****
  • Posts: 325
  • You can never have to many mags.
    • View Profile
Re: BB Measurements
« Reply #40 on: May 17, 2012, 11:08:07 AM »

Please check the date of the last post before posting on a thread. If its over a year old dont post.

I dunno, this is an interesting thread I've never seen before. I don't see a problem. If it were an argument however on whether or not JG or E1 makes the best m4, then yes, please refrain from posting.

oh no, dont get me wrong, very interesting "study" and would love to see up to date info re-posted on this. however Nathaniel's post had no relavence to the thread. besides bumping it.
PLUGGING MY SALE THREAD WITHOUT SHAME!
http://www.airsoftarizona.com/index.php?topic=33078.0
On Field Callsign: Rig
Freelancer Airsoft Group - FLAG

Offline -MAD- SARGE

  • Global Moderator
  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Lieutenant General
  • *****
  • Posts: 3279
    • View Profile
Re: BB Measurements
« Reply #41 on: May 17, 2012, 07:50:58 PM »
Bioval anyone?

Biovals are glass like and do not deform. They have proven to shoot out glass windows in vehicles within normal airsoft engagement distances,  just look at the example at the gearbox.  I would not want to be shot by one at any range.


Don't be an Escalefter.

Offline Shadow

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sergeant Major
  • *****
  • Posts: 525
  • Tappin' fools from 300'+
    • View Profile
Re: BB Measurements
« Reply #42 on: May 17, 2012, 09:18:25 PM »
Hey Raith, you must be a hardcore BB Guns enthusiast to actually do this yourself! Congrats mate! :)

Please check the date of the last post before posting on a thread. If its over a year old dont post.

Considering this is a sticky, I think it's ok to post up on it regardless if it is old or not.
Six Charlie
Phantom Retired
Prop Wash Gang

Offline INFIDEL

  • Trade Count: (+5)
  • Sergeant First Class
  • *****
  • Posts: 325
  • You can never have to many mags.
    • View Profile
Re: BB Measurements
« Reply #43 on: May 17, 2012, 09:22:17 PM »
Hey Raith, you must be a hardcore BB Guns enthusiast to actually do this yourself! Congrats mate! :)

Please check the date of the last post before posting on a thread. If its over a year old dont post.

Considering this is a sticky, I think it's ok to post up on it regardless if it is old or not.

Thats my bad then, I had not noticed that this thread was as sticky.
PLUGGING MY SALE THREAD WITHOUT SHAME!
http://www.airsoftarizona.com/index.php?topic=33078.0
On Field Callsign: Rig
Freelancer Airsoft Group - FLAG

Offline LIGACHEIF

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Sergeant First Class
  • *****
  • Posts: 266
  • Shut up ya f**kin pog
    • View Profile
Re: BB Measurements
« Reply #44 on: May 26, 2012, 09:30:01 AM »
Dude, thats awesome! And weird... But still, awesome!
Hue City, 1968 RTO Impression

AA's resident Olde Timey Impressioner