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Increase ROF
« on: June 18, 2012, 01:59:16 PM »
Was wondering what are a few things internally that would help increase ROF for an M4 Pneumatic blow back. (I.E Brands, specific parts etc)

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Re: Increase ROF
« Reply #1 on: June 18, 2012, 02:01:03 PM »
New motor, Deans connectors maybe, increase battery voltage, these are some simple things to increase rof.
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Re: Increase ROF
« Reply #2 on: June 18, 2012, 02:11:39 PM »
how far do you want to go with increasing you rof?
there are small things you can do to increase it a lil bit and there are big things that you can do to increase it alot.
do you want just a lil bit faster trigger responce or do you want a high speeed setup?
do you want to increase it  2-3 or 5rps or do you want to run 30+rps.
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Re: Increase ROF
« Reply #3 on: June 18, 2012, 04:08:27 PM »
+30 fer sure faster trigger response is what im looking at now as well .

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Re: Increase ROF
« Reply #4 on: June 18, 2012, 04:55:50 PM »
30+ you say...well then go for a high speed motor, some ball bearing bushings, deans connectors (provide the beter trigger response), and a lipo and youll definatly be pushing a high rof. theres tons more to increase ROF, and im sue other people will post telling you how. Also disabling the blow back is probably going to be good fro the high rof.
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Re: Increase ROF
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2012, 11:25:28 AM »
30+ you say...well then go for a high speed motor, some ball bearing bushings, deans connectors (provide the beter trigger response), and a lipo and youll definatly be pushing a high rof. theres tons more to increase ROF, and im sue other people will post telling you how. Also disabling the blow back is probably going to be good fro the high rof.

this is so wrong i dont even know what to say..

do not get a high speed motor .. get a magnum type, unless you want under 330 fps, the high speed will not pull anything more than a 110 spring efficiently.
Pneumatic blow back, means its ran off of air. there is a hole in the cylinder that blows the bolt back pneumatically. disabling it will do nothing for rate of fire. Maby just maby it will give you 5-10 fps

Get a magnum motor, 13:1 gears, deans plugs, metal toothed piston and a better battery.
I would also say stay away from ball bearing bushings unless you want you gun to fail on you with in like 50,000 rounds, yeah ball bearing bushings are made for speed, But they also lack reliability. I would honestly only go that route if im seeking crazy rate of fire.
Im talking 45 bbps +
 
Dean plugs do little to nothing for adding trigger response... thats all about motor and gears.
« Last Edit: June 19, 2012, 11:27:07 AM by SLINKEY »

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Re: Increase ROF
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2012, 11:49:09 AM »
next question is what kind of budget you have to work with.
this is what i would run if you want over 30 and dont want to spend a grip of cash doing it:
shs 13:1 gears short stroked to the fps you want
m130/sp120 spring
echo1 high torque neo mag motor
15 steel tooth piston modded for aoe
sorbo for the cylinder head (helps with aoe and impact in the gb)
shimming will be realy important. i dont recomend bearings for any build but that is my personal preference. i recomend high quality solid bushings instead.
i also recomend a sector chip for propper feeding but its not allways required.
11.1 lipo and a mosfet.

if budget is not an issue you can go this route:
riot sc 14:1 gears
terminusX thunder motor
terminusX high speed steel bushings
m130/sp120 spring
15 steel tooth piston
extreme fire mosfet or the upcoming btc chimera fet
sorbo and other tuning tricks that are needed to make a high speed gun work correctly

if you are on a buget you can get what you want. oh and i consider deans a must for any gun.
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Re: Increase ROF
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2012, 12:56:23 PM »
30+ you say...well then go for a high speed motor, some ball bearing bushings, deans connectors (provide the beter trigger response), and a lipo and youll definatly be pushing a high rof. theres tons more to increase ROF, and im sue other people will post telling you how. Also disabling the blow back is probably going to be good fro the high rof.

this is so wrong i dont even know what to say..

do not get a high speed motor .. get a magnum type, unless you want under 330 fps, the high speed will not pull anything more than a 110 spring efficiently.
Pneumatic blow back, means its ran off of air. there is a hole in the cylinder that blows the bolt back pneumatically. disabling it will do nothing for rate of fire. Maby just maby it will give you 5-10 fps

Get a magnum motor, 13:1 gears, deans plugs, metal toothed piston and a better battery.
I would also say stay away from ball bearing bushings unless you want you gun to fail on you with in like 50,000 rounds, yeah ball bearing bushings are made for speed, But they also lack reliability. I would honestly only go that route if im seeking crazy rate of fire.
Im talking 45 bbps +
 
Dean plugs do little to nothing for adding trigger response... thats all about motor and gears.
Any Specific brands I should get? or watch out for? Budget is not an issue here, as for the motor what would you recommend (i.e Long, medium, or short.) And one last thing would it be good to buy an after market cylinder, air nozzle piston head etc?
« Last Edit: June 19, 2012, 01:00:46 PM by Nofatchicks »

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Re: Increase ROF
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2012, 01:00:46 PM »
motor length all depends on what gun you are using, a gun will only take one size motor.
if budget is not an issue take a look at the parts i listed. they arent cheap but they are the best on the market right now.
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Re: Increase ROF
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2012, 01:02:16 PM »
motor length all depends on what gun you are using, a gun will only take one size motor.
if budget is not an issue take a look at the parts i listed. they arent cheap but they are the best on the market right now.
any links? or local shops that might carry these items?

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Re: Increase ROF
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2012, 01:25:32 PM »
gearbox in tempe apd in north east phx and command post all have parts.
you can also check out  for parts.
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