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Offline Chum284

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Gas Snipers
« on: July 15, 2012, 08:24:49 PM »
Hey im considering buying a gas powered sniper rifle. However i do not know what type of brands are good or not. I am currently considering a KJW m700 Police version. The previous owner installed a tightbore barrel which is better than the stock. Also what is the drifference between gas or spring.

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Re: Gas Snipers
« Reply #1 on: July 15, 2012, 08:32:49 PM »
the obvious difference between gas sniper rifles and spring sniper rifles is that gas runs off a gas propellant(green gas,red gas,propane,ect.) and spring is the everyday cock it back and pull the trigger. no battery or propellant. but a gas sniper usually is semi auto and a spring sniper has to be bolt action of some sort. there are more answers on google though. i do reccomend kjw though because of how nice thier sniper rifles are.
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Re: Gas Snipers
« Reply #2 on: July 15, 2012, 10:09:23 PM »
Gas sniper's are not usually semi auto. The KJW 10/22 is not a "sniper", and the only other examples are the WE Dragunov and modified M14's.

I own a Tanaka L96, and personally think it is much better than spring bolt actions. The deciding factor for me was the bolt pull, because with a spring rifle you have the entire spring weight behind the bolt pull as opposed to the gas version which allows for smooth sliding action. Ammo capacity is usually around the same (14-26 rounds per mag) depending on your brand. IIRC the KJW M700 has a short mag with a 12 round capacity.

If this is your first gas gun I would recommend that you watch some videos or read up on basic gas gun maintenance, as they do take more upkeep than their springer counterparts. After each use I clean my bolt, mag, hopup and barrel and make sure everything is lubed properly. This ensures everything moves properly and keeps dirt from building up.

Also, there's the question of consistent performance. A well tuned spring rifle can put shots out within +/- 2 fps error, while gas guns are going to shoot at varied speeds on different days. Temperature and gas pressure come into play and this can be a deal breaker for people looking for very precise shots, well, as precise as they can get in airsoft. Then again, a well maintained gas gun with a regulated valve can shoot with within those same tolerances.

In the end it really boils down to personal preference. I like having a "weightless" bolt, and the longer barrel. The FPS never really varies enough to make a difference in accuracy IMO, but it's noticeable at the chrono station.

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Re: Gas Snipers
« Reply #3 on: July 16, 2012, 06:58:16 AM »
If you want to avoid fps deviations, you can also switch from green gas to HPA.

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Re: Gas Snipers
« Reply #4 on: July 16, 2012, 07:14:33 AM »
How do you switch from gas to HPA? I have al ot of HPA paintball tanks in my house. Do you need to alter the mag of the gun? or is it internal.

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Re: Gas Snipers
« Reply #5 on: July 16, 2012, 07:41:53 AM »
As stated above, the main, superficial difference is the obvious gap in the bolt pull-weights.

Unless you're not willing to learn good form in cycling a spring powered rifle, the choice between the two is up to you. Every type of gun (electric / gas / spring) can have a malfunction that takes you out of the game, but the fact is, manually operated spring powered BASR's ,or, "boltys", have the best record of reliability and consistency.


To give credit where it is due, there are gas powered weapon systems that can be just as quiet and consistent as a spring powered one. But then you have to factor in the need for two consumables in your loadout, the gas, & the ammo.

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Re: Gas Snipers
« Reply #6 on: July 17, 2012, 11:29:15 AM »
Spring rifles fail far more often than gas rifles.

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Re: Gas Snipers
« Reply #7 on: July 17, 2012, 05:04:24 PM »
Really? Do the mainsprings break or what. I know the L96 models have weak trigger assemblies, but my SVD is reliable as my 1960's Daisy. (So far).
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Re: Gas Snipers
« Reply #8 on: July 17, 2012, 05:14:13 PM »
The sear's mostly.  Nothing really "breaks" on the gas guns, the just need normal gas gun maintenance.

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Re: Gas Snipers
« Reply #9 on: July 17, 2012, 06:03:56 PM »
Never had either my gas kjw m700, nor my classic army spring m24 or my spring sun project m40a1 fail on me per say, but Ive had plenty of gas guns' seals fail on me over time.

I prefer the bolt pull on gas rifles, but the consistency shot to shot on my springers is superior. I mainly just like not having to worry about failing seals.