Unfortunately, often times all you have to go off of in volatile situations is assumption. It's called the 'fog of war.'
And you're willing to sacrafice our national treasures, not the least of which are the lives of many of our young people, on "foggy notions"? Good grief!
Hate to tell you, but assumptions have been the basis for an outstanding number of wars and conflicts fought in recent history.
I'm certainly not inclinced to disagree with you on that point.
If you don't like it, never get yourself involved in any potential conflict. Ever.
Are you trying to tell us that basing our reasons for going to war on assumptions is the reasonable and necessary course of action? Again, GOOD GRIEF!
I'm still waiting for you to respond to any one of the points I made.
Frankly, I'm starting to wonder when some of you are going to start paying attention.
And again, I remind you, it seems to me you were the first one in this entire thread to start linking the original post with our policy in Iraq.
Maybe you missed it but in his third post to this thread, Elvis stated…
The reason I posted this thread is because I was recently at a social event where 9 out 10 people didn't remember the flight numbers. Didn't remember that there were over 300 FDNY firefighters that died that day and thought that a war on terrorism at this point is a "lost cause."
Hope that helps you out keeping in mind of course that like our "genius" President, Elvis considers our war in Iraq to be a part of the"war on terrorism".
First of all I wont justify my use of American citizens murdered on 9/11. Because at no point was that the intention of this thread. I don't know how you can misconstrue.......
All I can say is NEVER FORGET and hopefully this will become a reminder to those that have forgotten the losses we suffered that day.
to me using the tragic loss of those americans as my own personal "War Agenda" and feeding off of emotions. It was meant as a message to others in the world as well as Americans.
Primarily due to your comment I just quoted to Ghostsequel. Looks like ever since then you've simply been thowin out a bunch of doublespeak.
Therefore we had no choice but to invade the nation where they were hiding.
I concur that our use of force in Afghanistan appears to have been warranted.
Then, before the miscreants were captured and with little warning, we were told that yet another enemy had appeared on the horizon, heavily armed with "weapons of mass destruction" and was prepared for imminent attack against our shores!
Let that be a lesson to you, don’t believe everything politicians tell you. But, I guess there is no sense in my telling you that if you’re of the school of thought that believes basing our decisions to go to war on assumptions is a reasonable thing to do.
Much of our military force was pulled out of the hunt for the rogues of Al Qaida in the mountains of Afghanistan for the purpose of invading Iraq.
Yeah, leaving Osama to continue to direct his international terrorist organization, I might add.
After almost a thousand more deaths have been added to the three thousand who died in the World Trade Center, then we find that we are no more secure than we were on September 10, 2001.
Exactly.
I never said that I agreed with the war in Iraq and I to like other American have lost many a friends and family Over There. So Lead take it easy when you throw slander and accusations at people especially when you might (God forbid) be wrong in your interpretations.
Dude, I’ll bet that in actuality you are a hell of a nice guy and probably fairly intelligent. I honestly believe that you are going to come around to understanding that as a nation we need to more wisely apply our use of military force around the globe and what a terrible and wasteful approach to handling world affairs our "war on terroism" has been in Iraq.
wait a second, my bullshit dectector just went off the scale.
I would suggest then that you have it recalibrated.
first of all, I'd like to say that you are doing an awefully good job at putting down everybody who disagrees with you, and you really shouldn't complain if somebody does give you a minor insult.
It wasn’t a complaint so much as it was a suggestion.
We are not simply at war with insurgents, we are trying to fix the problems that Clinton allowed pass in the last 8 years. What was Clinton's solution to a terrorist attack? one or two nights of random bombings that did nothing but make the terrorists hate us more.
I’m not any bigger a fan of the liberal Bill Clinton than I am of the liberal who claims to be a conservative George W. Bush. But are you now suggesting that we should have gone to war with Iraq following the first trade center bombing? Let me throw in another “good grief†here. What of George senior’s decision not to polish off Saddam when he had the chance?
It doesnt matter if these people are part of Al Qaeda, Abu Nidal, the PLF or any of the other hundred of islamic terrorist groups, they all have one thing in common. They are willing to do whatever it takes to strike fear into the hearts of those who do not have the same beliefs.
Yeah, just like our very own “American Talibanâ€. Hey, did you check out Robertson’s latest comment endorsing the assassination of the democratically elected leader of Venezuela? Why ain't Robertson sittin in gitmo right now?!!!
I know that I really did not say much there...
Can’t argue with that.
…but I will leave you with this you say that Ghost's attempt was "pitiful" pray tell why. your debate skills need a bit of improving. If you want to to nullify somebody's argument, you need a counter-argument that state *WHY* the arguement is "pitiful"
You must have missed the part where I addressed the practice of basing our decisions to go to war on what Ghost agreed were assumptions. But hey, if you can’t understand or appreciate that, I’d just be beating a dead horse by repeating it. I’m just going to right you off as an unhappy camper.
Cheers.
Lead
