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Offline Basher

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« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2002, 05:08:15 PM »
Forgot I posted here. <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

TheCrow, you are correct. You mentioned topics I failed to. I whole-heartedly agree that issue weapons are not as well cared(sp?) for as my 96. The fact that issue weapons are passed from one person to another when a soldier leaves service makes things hard. Other times, when an issue weapon brought back to the armoury in bad shape and allowed to be returned, it makes things hard on the next user.

To me, a hardball 115FMJ isn't the greatest in stopping power. That's range fodder as far as I'm concerned. Not that I don't have confidence in it (like I've said on other forums, "I don't want ANY of them in ME!"), but something better would be nice (like the ol' .45's). The best thing 9x19 has going for it is capacity, which the military gets. However, I seem to thing they abuse and neglect the other crucial elements needed to make good ammo.

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« Reply #16 on: August 20, 2002, 10:59:54 PM »
Funny talking about the Geneva Convention seeming as though we never signed the darn thing...

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« Reply #17 on: August 21, 2002, 06:48:26 PM »
<BLOCKQUOTE id=quote><font size=1 face="Verdana" id=quote>quote:<hr height=1 noshade id=quote> Funny talking about the Geneva Convention seeming as though we never signed the darn thing...<hr height=1 noshade id=quote></BLOCKQUOTE id=quote></font id=quote><font face="Verdana" size=2 id=quote>

Yeah ain't that funny! But every servicemember carries a "Geneva Conventions Identification Card". America has a history of holding itself to a higher set of morals. Mainly we have to play fairly while the rest of the world can cheat. sucks don't it?

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« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2002, 11:38:32 AM »
Here is a report from the 1-187th Infantry that is using the latest hardware in Afghanistan:

  The weapons listed have the following 'Confidence Ratings' that the troops gave to them-
  M249 SAW  64%
  M9        63%
  M4        89%
  M203      95%
  M240B    100%
  All ratings reflect the percentage of confidence the soldiers had in the weapons they were issued.  All of the soldiers interviewed  had used these weapons in combat.

  For related info, the M4 was considered only 77% reliable, and was quoted as "getting dirty fast, the handguards rattle and get hot quickly".  The M249 was lethal and accurate (79%/89%), but only had a 50% reliability rate.  Ease of handling and maintenance (32%/15%) was even lower.  One soldier said, "It is great when new, but gets worse over time.  The drum mags fall off".
  Most grenadiers wanted buckshot loads for their M203s, along with non-slip handguards and a 40mm muzzle cap to keep dirt out.
  The only complaint about the M240B machinegun, was the method of carrying ammo.  Most gunners wanted improved ammo bags and a quick-detatch sling.
  Overall, most weapons issued were hard to keep clean and operating due to insufficient cleaning supplies in standard-issue kits.  The 5.56mm round was also criticized.  Many of the troops want expanding rounds, not ball or AP, which was for enemies with body armor.  Not many of our opponents in the desert wear body armor.  To help effectiveness, shooting lower (into the pelvis) produces better results, instead of aiming center-mass.

  Now remember, this entire report is for the real steel, not the airsoft versions.  All info came from a recent article in 'Stars and Stripes'.

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Edited by - TheCrow on 08/04/2002  11:41:28 AM
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