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Offline Nine_Breaker

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AR-15 & Ruger .45
« on: July 08, 2006, 04:51:05 PM »
Anyone have any info on these two from a personal standpoint? I went to a gun store today to get a brush and saw those.

Oh and the Ruger .45 was a Semi-auto standard style.
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« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2006, 05:00:52 PM »
ummm, asking about and AR-15 is rather vague. I have three and I like them.

AS for the ruger, get a glock and dont waste your money, also get a 9mm glock and you will be able to afford to train more.
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« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2006, 05:09:46 PM »
Well I don't know much about the AR-15. I haven't owned one before. I just want to know about maintainence, accuracy, any jamming or misfire(trigger) issues.

As for the glock I HATE glocks. My dad owns a Ruger .44 magnum but it's a little to much for me. I just don't like 9mms.
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« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2006, 05:19:12 PM »
Relability depends on what brand you buy. I have 2 colts and they are rock solid, but cant realy exchange parts with any other companys ARs. My newest one si a mut of Ameetech, colt, LMT, Vltor and a few other parts all thrown together and it is awsome. DOnt get a DPMS.

As for the glock comment, it is ok you are still young.
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« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2006, 05:30:30 PM »
Well part of the glock problem is I still live at home(college). And my brother is this little punk fake gangster who loves the glock. He does what he wants when he wants and gets he wants. And my parents don't disipline him. Plus he HATES rifles and bigger hand guns.

If I get a glock he will steal it and do something stupid. He failed 2 classes and got a 2k dirt bike. I won't take the risk of him taking it and waving it about cause it's "gangster" and cool.
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« Reply #5 on: July 08, 2006, 06:36:39 PM »
Get one of these, or a larger one if you get a rifle. This one can be bolted down if you need to:

http://www.kcsafe.com/zoom_in_A-SWP1.htm

I have one and it works great.
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« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2006, 09:50:10 AM »
Which Ruger .45 are you looking for? the P89 series (my brother has one, very nice fit/ feel, and shooting) are good reliable pistols as long as you maintain them properly, like any other firearm.  Accessories are kind of short when it comes to most of the Ruger Auto's, when compaired to either Glock's, 1911's, or some of the other police/ military issue side arms.

My personal taste for .45's runs in the 1911 family, and there are just TOO many good choices there.  But the best thing about the 1911 series parts are fairly interchangable, and a so-so pistol can always be customized into a tack drivin beast.

As for AR's, I have a bushmaster XM15 16" barrel, I know it is good out past 600m for accuracy (further than I can accurattly shoot open sight at least....)  As for reliablity I've shot hundreds of rounds thru it and had no problems I could blame on the rifle, Magazines are the common failure point of most AR's. An other problem is short barrel versions haveing short gas tubes, which can cause cyclic problems. Although I have heard that the piston conversion models don't experiance this problem, I haven't played with one yet..

  With the AR series of rifles you can find just about anything you could want to hang on it, and once you have a lower reciever you can swap uppers out for different barrel lenghts or calibers with very little problems.
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« Reply #7 on: July 09, 2006, 11:45:19 AM »
Quote from: "Ganef"
Relability depends on what brand you buy. I have 2 colts and they are rock solid, but cant realy exchange parts with any other companys ARs. My newest one si a mut of Ameetech, colt, LMT, Vltor and a few other parts all thrown together and it is awsome. DOnt get a DPMS.

As for the glock comment, it is ok you are still young.


I beg to differ on DPMS.  You don't want to know how many AR's I have, and at least half of them are DPMS.  DPMS rifles have tighter chambers and will require a bit more breaking-in than most other AR's, but you are also rewarded with a slightly more accurate AR in my experience.
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« Reply #8 on: July 09, 2006, 12:31:23 PM »
I believe it was a P series. I only saw two in the counter but I couldn't get indepth about it or the AR-15. Some crazy beergut guy was rambling with the owners about AKs and Barettas while blocking the counter. I could only get a look at the Glocks, Lugers, .45s, and Barettas.


However I did like the .50cal Sniper rifle sitting on the table.
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« Reply #9 on: July 10, 2006, 05:02:40 PM »
I went back to the store and asked them about the rifles.

They had both Olympic Arms and Bushmaster AR-15s. I asked them about the basic stuff since i'm a severe AR noob. He said maintenance was standard-clean once your done firing-, pre-attached folding stock, changedable attachments, same ol stuff. But they got confused about it's ammo. I asked if it fired 5.56 NATO and at first they said no .223s. But then the other guy came over and said the rounds are interchangable and it could fire either. It was quote "the same grain round"

I've looked around and I've seen that interchanging the rounds can cause gun damage to the barrel and loading mechinism. Is this true?
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« Reply #10 on: July 10, 2006, 11:29:30 PM »
You said you don't like 9mms, you should try shooting a Browning High Power 9mm sometime,(if you haven't before of course) they're really nice, cause I don't like Glocks that much either.
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« Reply #11 on: July 11, 2006, 07:28:26 AM »
Not all AR-15s are chambered for 5.56mm, as I understand it it differs from .223 because it generates higher pressures in the chamber when fired and if your gun is not chmabered for 5.56 it can explode. All 5.56 chambered guns can shoot .223, but guns that shoot .223 cant fire 5.56. You can tell because of the stamp that is given on the barrel as to what it is chambered for. As far as I have heard bushmaster is gtg, check pricing though becuase some gun shops rely on the customer ignorance to get more out of you. Check out similar guns on www.gunbroker.com or other sites that sell similar setups. Building your own AR-15 is pretty easy and can save you a lot of money, check out ameetech at www.ameetecharms.com I have purchased lowers and parts kits and they have been realy great and super helpful at pointing me in the right direction, and they are local.
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« Reply #12 on: July 11, 2006, 09:46:54 AM »
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Not all AR-15s are chambered for 5.56mm, as I understand it it differs from .223 because it generates higher pressures in the chamber when fired and if your gun is not chmabered for 5.56 it can explode. All 5.56 chambered guns can shoot .223, but guns that shoot .223 cant fire 5.56. You can tell because of the stamp that is given on the barrel as to what it is chambered for. As far as I have heard bushmaster is gtg, check pricing though becuase some gun shops rely on the customer ignorance to get more out of you. Check out similar guns on www.gunbroker.com or other sites that sell similar setups. Building your own AR-15 is pretty easy and can save you a lot of money, check out ameetech at www.ameetecharms.com I have purchased lowers and parts kits and they have been realy great and super helpful at pointing me in the right direction, and they are local.


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« Reply #13 on: July 11, 2006, 06:12:51 PM »
I swear I keep putting in that extra h all the darn time.
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