Israeli Aggression in Lebanon...

[busta_cap]

It's the middle east, so I could care less.

[Uchiha Itachi]

The point I was trying to make was that the Muslims didn't integrate into the French society but rather brought their culture with them and kept instead of assimilating.  Much like some of the immigrants from Mexico.

The term is reverse culturalism or goth. It happens when a group of people migrate to another country but keep their native countries ways, all of them. So all the problems they had in the previous countries remain with the group. People compare the mexico immigration with the early US mmigration from Europe. But it isn't the same because they became Americans. Even though they did keep some of their culture they widely accepted the US culture and added to it. While immigrants from Mexico are doing the reverse culturalism as well as most Middle easterners. They refuse to abid our laws and cultures and only view theirs. But this is a growing problem all around the world and isn't isolated to the US. It's happened in Britain, France, Russia, Canada, and Isreal. Part of the EU issue is that when you are born you are "tagged" until death. A french person is always a frenchman regardless of if he moves to another country. Same can be said here with Mexicans. Americans widely just say Mexican even if they were born here. But this issue has been around since the age of immigration, just no one wanted to talk about it.

[Cheeze_IZ_G00d]

Cheez!  wake the fu@k up MAN!  You can't sit down at the table with these people!  They DON'T CARE ABOUT YOU AND I!  They want us DEAD DEAD DEAD!!!!  What is it about this that you can't understand!  Do you remember when they killed Nicholas Berg!  They cut his fuc@kin HEAD OFF ON TELEVISION....ALIVE!!!  Yeah right, solve it with diplomancy!  What are you going to talk about!  "please mister terroist....don't hurt us anymore"...  Give me a fu@kin break!  Or what about when they captured our two soldiers in Iraq!  They Mutulated them!  They dismembered the bodies!  And they booby-trapped the bodies in hopes of killing more American soldiers when we came to get them! When we found them...there "package's" had been CUT OFF and these "freedom fighters"  (Which is what you Librals call them) stuffed them in there mouths! Or did you forget about this as well.  This goes beyond Israel!  This goes beyond the Mid-East!  This is all over the world dude!  You need to wake up and see the light my man!  As I said before, you offer some wonderful information and talking points....however, with respect....your DEAD WRONG about these people.  Wake up man!  Wake up Fast!

If I remember correctly, Nicholas Berg was killed by terrorists in Iraq. Now, if the US had taken Israel's approach of bombing the bejesus of where we thought the terrorists were we may have saved his life, or perhaps killed him ourselves in the effort. My point is is that the current, and only current, situation could have been solved by a simple prisoner swap in both Gaza and Lebanon. However, right or wrong by them, Israel decided to go on an offensive, not a rescue mission. My question to you is, how would people, specifically the terrorists, have reacted had we gone on such a broad scale air war to get two or three soldiers returned alive?

Doc, I am sorry if I misinterpreted your comment, I suppose I should thank you for the compliment.

[Qulevra]

Cheeze_IZ_G00d, i don't know where you draw your inspiration from and where you googled all your deep knowledge on the subject, but you show a lot of ignorance.

i'm not interested in your political views, but your interpretation of history has nothing to do with reality. go get a library subscription and read some.

p.s. i'm an Israeli.

[Qulevra]

-double post-

[busta_cap]

When did you move to the US?

[Cheeze_IZ_G00d]

What parts of my historical interpretation do you disagree with? I always try to be accurate, and as far as I know all of what I have said is so.

[Farslayer]

What parts of my historical interpretation do you disagree with? I always try to be accurate, and as far as I know all of what I have said is so.

Berg was killed for two reasons:

1.  He was an AMERICAN
2.  He was a JEW

 :roll:

[deathbydanish]

The point I was trying to make was that the Muslims didn't integrate into the French society but rather brought their culture with them and kept instead of assimilating.  Much like some of the immigrants from Mexico.

The term is reverse culturalism or goth. It happens when a group of people migrate to another country but keep their native countries ways, all of them. So all the problems they had in the previous countries remain with the group. People compare the mexico immigration with the early US mmigration from Europe. But it isn't the same because they became Americans. Even though they did keep some of their culture they widely accepted the US culture and added to it. While immigrants from Mexico are doing the reverse culturalism as well as most Middle easterners. They refuse to abid our laws and cultures and only view theirs. But this is a growing problem all around the world and isn't isolated to the US. It's happened in Britain, France, Russia, Canada, and Isreal. Part of the EU issue is that when you are born you are "tagged" until death. A french person is always a frenchman regardless of if he moves to another country. Same can be said here with Mexicans. Americans widely just say Mexican even if they were born here. But this issue has been around since the age of immigration, just no one wanted to talk about it.

The same generalization can be made about Americans vacationing to other places like Europe. In fact there's actually a book out there with tips for American tourists on how not to piss off other people when vacationing in their country. One of the biggest things is talking about American football as if it were the only kind of football worth watching in Europe where soccer is obviously the preeminent sport.

[Cheeze_IZ_G00d]

What parts of my historical interpretation do you disagree with? I always try to be accurate, and as far as I know all of what I have said is so.

Berg was killed for two reasons:

1.  He was an AMERICAN
2.  He was a JEW

 :roll:

I understand that. I was merely discussing that he was captured and killed in Iraq.

[Qulevra]

When did you move to the US?

late 2003

[Qulevra]

What parts of my historical interpretation do you disagree with? I always try to be accurate, and as far as I know all of what I have said is so.

i don't have to disagree with you. history, however, does.

should i start with ancient history, or the modern one ? you don't seem to even know where the word "Palestine" comes from, left aside the "poor, mistreated Palestinian people"...

[Rolundo]

if only it can be this simple lol

[Uchiha Itachi]

The point I was trying to make was that the Muslims didn't integrate into the French society but rather brought their culture with them and kept instead of assimilating.  Much like some of the immigrants from Mexico.

The term is reverse culturalism or goth. It happens when a group of people migrate to another country but keep their native countries ways, all of them. So all the problems they had in the previous countries remain with the group. People compare the mexico immigration with the early US mmigration from Europe. But it isn't the same because they became Americans. Even though they did keep some of their culture they widely accepted the US culture and added to it. While immigrants from Mexico are doing the reverse culturalism as well as most Middle easterners. They refuse to abid our laws and cultures and only view theirs. But this is a growing problem all around the world and isn't isolated to the US. It's happened in Britain, France, Russia, Canada, and Isreal. Part of the EU issue is that when you are born you are "tagged" until death. A french person is always a frenchman regardless of if he moves to another country. Same can be said here with Mexicans. Americans widely just say Mexican even if they were born here. But this issue has been around since the age of immigration, just no one wanted to talk about it.

The same generalization can be made about Americans vacationing to other places like Europe. In fact there's actually a book out there with tips for American tourists on how not to piss off other people when vacationing in their country. One of the biggest things is talking about American football as if it were the only kind of football worth watching in Europe where soccer is obviously the preeminent sport.

Unless you are Peace Corps. If you are an active member doing stuff in other countries you will often get discounts and treated better.

[Qulevra]

if only it can be this simple lol

another piece of BS. Jordan, as we know it today, didn't even exist prior to early XX century.