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Is it true what they say about Army PT?
« on: August 23, 2006, 09:01:23 PM »
I was talking a 42 year old ex-Ranger today while I was working on his computer. He told me that although Army PT is good for your heart/lungs, if you keep on doing it through out your life without balancing it with other forms of exercise, you'll just ruin your body when you get older.

Then again after the Army he used to do 10 mile night marches with a 100lbs. ruck sack. And when he was going to school he'd run from Mesa to Scottsdale, simply because he couldn't afford to spend money on transportation.
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« Reply #1 on: August 23, 2006, 10:24:15 PM »
Uphill both ways?
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« Reply #2 on: August 23, 2006, 10:44:04 PM »
In 15 inches of snow.
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« Reply #3 on: August 23, 2006, 10:56:34 PM »
That is true for any form of exercise. However, running is a catabolic exercise, so you will lose muscle mass if that is all that you do. Balance is the key to everything in life.
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« Reply #4 on: August 23, 2006, 11:03:01 PM »
being int he military is NOT good for your body. once you realize this, you have to take preventative measure to ensure your health. i.e. - eat good, stay physcial. train on your own what you don't do as "PT" being a soldier.
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« Reply #5 on: August 23, 2006, 11:05:57 PM »
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being int he military is NOT good for your body.
I wouldn't go so far as to say that. It's a common misperception that running is the main aspect of military PT. I'd say that's false.

We'd do all sorts of things for PT, then finish it up by running for a few miles. Hardly self-destructive.
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« Reply #6 on: August 23, 2006, 11:25:22 PM »
Running is one exercise that is brutle to the body. Your hips, knees, ankles all take a jarring beating. When I used to play rugby for the Tempe Old Devils my hips, knees and ankles would throb after our cardio/agility days. Look at a lot of retired professional atheletes that have bad joints.

I personally try not to do to much high impact exercises. I will do some running, but also mountain bike and hike.

Like they say, "To much of one thing can be bad for you".
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« Reply #7 on: August 23, 2006, 11:38:36 PM »
The key is running on soft surfaces. My dad was Federal LE for a lot of years and has been running for probably 45-50 years. He did a triathlon last year and he finished (not in last place either). I run on the canals.
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« Reply #8 on: August 24, 2006, 12:02:10 AM »
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being int he military is NOT good for your body.

I wouldn't go so far as to say that. It's a common misperception that running is the main aspect of military PT. I'd say that's false.

We'd do all sorts of things for PT, then finish it up by running for a few miles. Hardly self-destructive.


you mean MISCONCEPTION and running is a large part of ANY physcial training. the ARMY doesn't concentrate on it enough although it IS extremely destructive to the body.

in the active ARMY you do not have time to make up for the lack of specific physical gain a regular PT regiment will work on you. your body is exerted in the same manner constantly. it developes certain things, weakens others. hence, it is important for the indivudual to figure out what his PT lacks and make up for it on his own.

i'm not even throwing in ruck marches or getting smoked. both of which have some good points and some very bad points for the human body.

the average active soldier loses 15% of their muscle mass, 20% of their body fat and suffers from tendonitis throught various parts of their body. more extreme cases involve multiple stress fractures in the lower extremeties, calcium deposits and the development of osteoperosis from long term bone damage with the lack of mineral intake (diet).
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« Reply #9 on: August 24, 2006, 12:03:55 AM »
Army PT is definitely good for you. And yes, it can be bad for you. Army has got me fucked up, and I'm only 19(I now have neck problems thank you very much).
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« Reply #10 on: August 24, 2006, 12:10:45 AM »
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It's a common misperception...
you mean MISCONCEPTION

No, I meant misperception...

mis·per·ceive (mspr-sv)
tr.v. mis·per·ceived, mis·per·ceiv·ing, mis·per·ceives
To perceive incorrectly; misunderstand.
misper·ception (-spshn) n.
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« Reply #11 on: August 24, 2006, 12:27:15 AM »
maybe too much PT has dulled your SENSES but to misperceive something you must first experience it.
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« Reply #12 on: August 24, 2006, 12:35:44 AM »
regular PT is different from combat arms PT, which is different from airborne and ranger PT.  The stuff we did in basic was just build you up kind of PT.  At FT Bragg running was like 90% of the PT we did - some in running shoes but a lot in boots with rucks.

We did PT 5 days a week.  Most non-combat arms units had optional unit PT on Fridays.  No one ever fell out of a run - the consequences were worse than dying from PT....

I doubt it was good for us then but I would think this far down the road the military is better informed...??

Specops guys had a whole different PT thing and MSG Mullen has a Yahoo group based on well designed PT routines for spec ops.

p.s.   thanks to the Army I can't run for shit now.....  but I can walk all the way to Georgia..... lol
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« Reply #13 on: August 24, 2006, 12:37:31 AM »
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maybe too much PT has dulled your SENSES but to misperceive something you must first experience it.


per·ceive (pr-sv)
tr.v. per·ceived, per·ceiv·ing, per·ceives
To become aware of directly through any of the senses, especially sight or hearing.
To achieve understanding of; apprehend.


Really, misperception or misconception would be fine, as both words correctly convey the point I was making.

I just took issue with you telling me what I meant, when I said exactly what I meant.
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« Reply #14 on: August 24, 2006, 10:24:59 AM »
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Army PT is definitely good for you. And yes, it can be bad for you. Army has got me fucked up, and I'm only 19(I now have neck problems thank you very much).


 :lol: Ian, you crack me up!  :lol:

I had a shoulder injury when I used to hit the gym hard. I had a ultra sound done. The sports doctor told me that I had a high amount of calcium deposit in my shoulders due to to much sports and activities that involve stress on the shoulders, football, rugby, baseball, softball, weight lifting even riding my motorcycle. It's normal for this to happen, but I have a higher amount than normal.

So I personally think that PT can help and hurt you. Not eveyone has the same body structure. Some people can tolerate more physical stress than others just by their genetics.
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