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Offline infinitydragon11

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Forced Milsim....
« on: October 12, 2006, 10:58:50 PM »
It seems like everybody on this forum has an obsession with the game of airsoft being 110% Milsim... my questions is why?  Its a game, or sport if you like (which is what i would call it if there was some real competitions), and some people has different styles of play.  The group i play with at the moment has one guy in particular who's stlye is a bit unortodox and pretty much anti-milsim.  The thing is, the second you all saw him you would laugh and not take him seriously, and he would probably RULE most of us out there.  The guy is good, real good.  We all call his style "bounty hunter" or "renegade".  What is wrong with having a bit of flavor and diversity in the sport?  Now dont get me wrong, Im a milsim guy... i wear all marpat camo with the real marine issue boots, but i see NOTHING wrong with letting some diversity play in the game without being instantly frowned on... pass on your thoughts
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« Reply #1 on: October 12, 2006, 11:54:36 PM »
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« Reply #2 on: October 13, 2006, 12:19:41 AM »
This is a scenerio based activity.  If your friends "style" fits game play, fine.  If it doesn't, no matter how good he is, he'll stick out like a sore thumb and will draw unwanted attention.  I'm speaking of open field play, however.  In a CQB arena, he's as equal as anyone.  He can play however he wants.

As far as the MILSIM aspect in general, it is what drew the majority of us to the sport and the only reason we continue to play.....IMO.
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« Reply #3 on: October 13, 2006, 01:03:43 AM »
I've often pondered the same question myself.  If you have, or can find, a group of like-minded friends, you can do whatever you want: MILSIM, COPSIM (I don't know what it's really called, but like a SWAT team sim), spec ops vs. terrorists, bounty hunters vs. bail jumpers, whatever.  Really, you can reenact any real life situation in which guns are commonly involved. Hell, you could even do completely fantasy stuff, too.  It's only limited by your imagination (and your wallet  :lol: ).  
Organized airsoft events are generally centered around MILSIM, but that doesn't mean that's all you can do with it.

Geez, first I make positive comments about ICS guns, now I'm standing up for non MILSIM airsoft.  I'm at risk of being tarred, feathered, and kicked off the forum at any moment ...  :lol:  ;)
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« Reply #4 on: October 13, 2006, 01:09:38 AM »
For some of us... we do MILSIM, not AIRSOFT.  Airsoft happens to be the platform we use presently to conduct milsim, but honestly if UTM was a little less expensive many of us would be using that instead.  But that's another story...

do what you want to do and dont worry about what other people think.... but don't slam what other people want to do either...
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« Reply #5 on: October 13, 2006, 01:29:43 AM »
I've yet to see someone dress the part of Neo or Ethan Hunt and get away with it. Or even dress the part and be able to carry on a decent conversation about real guns, airsoft or anything at all. Usualy, the people that try to dress like movie characters, like Dog the Bounty Hunter, don't know much about military tactics, or tactics at all. They're just too in to WOW, BF2 or CS.

Maybe your friend is different, but odds are against it, in my opinion.
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« Reply #6 on: October 13, 2006, 02:17:55 AM »
MILSIM is about dicipline and realism. its Military Simulation for a reason. if we wanted to play nothing but capture the flag or emilination all the time we'd play paintball (+1) this sport is what its name implies. we dont simulate the adventures of "counter strike" we simulate actual military combat. play how you want, but dont expect to make alot of friends with posts like that.
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« Reply #7 on: October 13, 2006, 08:19:45 AM »
Orig Poster... Dude thats soo not milsim!  jk.  I can understand the desire to know the answer to your question.  Its been answered to an umpteenth time =)  I play milsim because Paintball degraded to Speedball and bunker defense and neither of which involve a large amount of tactics, but a large amount of Paint and luck.  Airsoft has tactics, it has people who respect other players, and a common underground community feeling.  That is where I thrive, that is why I am here :)

Milsim, although expensive, is insanely fun.  Even when I just had a 70 dollar LPEG My friends and I did military style simulation even with the basic goal of CTF.  MilSim is in our blood!

(Btw what the hell is wrong with ICS guns? honestly, I own one, it kicks ass, no major ICS specific issues yet, STOP THAT ><)
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« Reply #8 on: October 13, 2006, 09:06:08 AM »
There is no wrong way to play games using airsoft weapons. (assuming you follow basic common sense and safety precautions).  If you want to get a 6 shot revolver based gun and fast draw each other, that is fine.
Most of the people on this board enjoy the milsim playstyle, so that is what they talk about.
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« Reply #9 on: October 13, 2006, 09:17:01 AM »
We play milsim because Airsoft isnt a game of winning.

I could cheat very easily, have a hot gun and be realy good at the "game" of airsoft, but that isnt the point.

Airsoft is "force on force" simulation training, I run weapons that are in similar configurations to my real guns to build muscle memory and put myself in situations where I have to use critial thinking about the battlefield to achieve success. We were defeated so badly at OP IRENE4 you would imagine I would quit the game entirely but we didnt.
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« Reply #10 on: October 13, 2006, 10:30:35 AM »
Some people have different ideas of what is "fun". I don't look down on speedballers so much anymore, in fact in can be very fun at times, I just simply think milsim is more fun.
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« Reply #11 on: October 13, 2006, 11:14:07 AM »
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We were defeated so badly at OP IRENE4 you would imagine I would quit the game entirely but we didnt.


But thats just so not true.  

Although the point system ensures a winner and a looser, they points are just not a true indicator of what happens on a battlefield.  Two very strong companies fought a difficult set of objectives and there was victory on both sides, and losses on both sides.  And at the end there was a combined force that kicked the insurgents asses so badly some of them were refusing to regen anymore....

IMHO
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« Reply #12 on: October 13, 2006, 11:15:04 AM »
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Because the game was CREATED to be mil-sim.  If you have a problem with it being 110% mil-sim, go play paintball.


First of all, that was incredibly antagonistic. He wasnt tryin to start a fight. He had a valid question and was looking for valid answer. We dont like paintball nor the way paintball is played, but mil-sim is a little too much for us. Not to say it isnt fun, its jus not what we choose to do most of the time. And that renegade guy hes talking about is as honest and decent as they come. He enjoys the game in every way. Why is it so hard to accept that a person can be a good and honest player without being mil-sim?
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« Reply #13 on: October 13, 2006, 11:19:50 AM »
Quote from: "Whiskey11"
(Btw what the hell is wrong with ICS guns? honestly, I own one, it kicks ass, no major ICS specific issues yet, STOP THAT ><)

My first experience with ICS was my new MP5A4. So far, I'm damn impressed with it.  I only added that comment to my post because ICS guns seem to be such a bone of contention among airsofters.  No other non-LPEG maker has been so maligned on the various forums.  I'm with you, man. I like ICS. 8)

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First of all, that was incredibly antagonistic. He wasnt tryin to start a fight. He had a valid question and was looking for valid answer. We dont like paintball nor the way paintball is played, but mil-sim is a little too much for us. Not to say it isnt fun, its jus not what we choose to do most of the time. And that renegade guy hes talking about is as honest and decent as they come. He enjoys the game in every way. Why is it so hard to accept that a person can be a good and honest player without being mil-sim?


Well said.  My thoughts, exactly.  There are people who are into airsoft guns, and people who are into MILSIM  using airsoft guns, plain and simple. I don't see why both groups can't peacefully coexist.  As to the specific guy in question, as long as the group he plays with is cool with his unorthodox style, what's the problem?
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« Reply #14 on: October 13, 2006, 12:09:05 PM »
F*** all that, I go out to shoot people.And play dress up, I guess. I'm Half-assed milsim.
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