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Offline General hubbub

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Star SAW vs. CA SAW
« on: November 14, 2006, 06:59:53 PM »
Well I'm hoping to buy a m249 MKII here soon, and I don't know which one to get. Are there any differences(other than weight)? I know people have told me in the past to just upgrade my gun but I'm going for realism. Also if there are any specs, please tell me.

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« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2006, 07:12:50 PM »
The Star one is more platicy, and isn't as well made as the CA. The CA is full metal and i think is more realistic, as long as you don't use a 9.6v in  the CA it works fine.
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« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2006, 08:37:21 PM »
The CA one has some problems with the gearbox and stripping pistons.  Just get an Inokatsu MK43, and you'll be set.
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« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2006, 10:12:24 PM »
I owned two Stars M249, There is nothing wrong with them for the price, Star has their act together,
haven't Owned a CA nor do I intend to for the price,
Star also keeps its resale value, Try to resale a used 850 dollar CA and see what happens
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« Reply #5 on: November 14, 2006, 11:23:44 PM »
I own a Star M249 (Gixers old one to be exact) and after your out in the feild for 3-4 hours you're arms will be damn happy it's plastic. Even though it's plastic it feels nice and this gun gets it's job done.
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« Reply #6 on: November 15, 2006, 07:23:15 AM »
why shouldent you have a 9.4v battery in a classic army cause thats what i have in my m15a4 :?
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« Reply #7 on: November 15, 2006, 08:58:59 AM »
only in the SAW you shoudl'nt, becuase it breaks it for some reason. In regular CA's like the m15's it works fine.
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« Reply #8 on: November 15, 2006, 11:28:06 AM »
It breaks some CA saws. The SAW I have been using has never had a hiccup with all the 9.6V batts I use in it. Though it goes through them pretty quick at national ops, thats why I carry 6, 2500 mAh. CA saws arent for the weak, stipped down to the bare minimum it still weighs a lot.
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« Reply #9 on: November 15, 2006, 11:44:35 AM »
I think I'm going to buy the star saw for the price. Thanks for all the help and suggestions. Also if i do buy the star, should there be anything i should upgrade or is it good out of the box?

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« Reply #10 on: November 15, 2006, 02:15:39 PM »
Just for reference, it was over adjustment of the hopup that created the piston stripping problems...
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« Reply #11 on: November 15, 2006, 04:03:45 PM »
Quote from: "Dust2Dust"
Just for reference, it was over adjustment of the hopup that created the piston stripping problems...

How does the hopup strip the piston?
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« Reply #12 on: November 15, 2006, 04:26:28 PM »
Too much hop = no feeding = back pressure on the nozzle.
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« Reply #13 on: November 15, 2006, 09:40:06 PM »
Also many like the use of 9.6 high output batteries. The 8.4 large is highly recommended.
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Hop up breaking the piston
« Reply #14 on: November 16, 2006, 10:40:22 AM »
I would have to agree on the hopup theary, the first thing i did when i got my cam249 is m120 bearing spring guide, 9.6 3600mah batt. and a deepfire titanium teeth piston. If you look at how the little hopup peice (dont remember what its called) sits in the hopup you'd understand why it can cause enough back pressure to break pistons, you can run a 9.6 batt in one, just take apart the hopup and shave a small amount from the little hopup piece, and you're good to go.  

as for star vs ca.   in my opinion (having handled both weapons) i like the CA, first the star is plastic, and the weapon is so large that if you trip and fall you're liable to break something easier than with the CA.  2nd if the star's box mag mount happens to break you are shit outta luck since it will only take proprietary mags. somepeople think that being able to use Standard m16 mags is useless, i disagree however. ifyour box mag jams or stops working altogether you still have a way to fire your weapon.

I could go on. all in all both weapons are excellent, the ca is WAY more realistic, so if you have the muscles to handle  it. My humble opionion is to go with CA

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