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Offline GUNFIGHTER6

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Rifled Airsoft Barrel????
« on: November 28, 2006, 02:00:44 PM »
I was browsing redwolfairsoft.com and found that they have an after market barrel for sale that has rifleing in it.  What effect if any would that have on accuracy or range?  Wouldn't the rifleing interfere with the hop-up?  Thanks.

http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/a ... ry?menu1=8
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« Reply #1 on: November 28, 2006, 02:20:49 PM »
No.  It's been proven to increase range and accuracy, as well as work with your hopup...

From their description:
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Tanio Koba Hop Twist Barrel, with rifled grooving in the barrel, combining hop up with gyro spin for higher accuracy.(430mm)
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« Reply #2 on: November 28, 2006, 03:19:30 PM »
I have read many mixed reviews. The twist barrel seems to work great for pistols but for anything beyond 40yd you loose.
If you have ever tried your AEG at any angle than straight up the hop up will spin it out sideways. So if your bb is given backspin and then radial spin they would cancel each other out. Here is a discussion on AP

http://www.airsoftplayers.com/forum/top ... IC_ID=3775
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« Reply #3 on: November 28, 2006, 04:06:27 PM »
Well, at velocities over 1 joule, the rifling is not aggressive enough to impart spin on the bb, so, in the United Kingdom, where they are deservedly more popular, they are more applicable. Here, not so much.
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« Reply #4 on: November 28, 2006, 04:34:56 PM »
Thanks for the help.  Just another passing fad in airsoft.
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« Reply #5 on: November 09, 2007, 10:33:49 AM »
Sorry to necropost, but I stumbled on this thread when I was looking up the Tanio Koba Twist barrels. I tried going to the link Ganef posted, but it seems the site no longer exists.

I'm thinking about putting it in a stock TM M14, will it do much to help with its range and accuracy if I just keep the stock spring?
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« Reply #6 on: November 09, 2007, 11:24:22 AM »
You would most likely be better off upgrading the spring and getting a true tightbore... the TM M14 hop up is amazing especially at high velocity.
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« Reply #7 on: November 09, 2007, 12:16:45 PM »
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You would most likely be better off upgrading the spring and getting a true tightbore... the TM M14 hop up is amazing especially at high velocity.


Or I could just buy your M14 that I just saw for sale  ;)
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« Reply #8 on: November 09, 2007, 02:29:17 PM »
From what I have heard, the rifled barrel only works below 1Jule, and if I remember right was really great for pistols but not much else.

I have heard M14's really have an outstanding hop up and range. I would be interested to see what you would have to say about the rifled barrel from experience but I wouldn't invest in one to see if it is any good.
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« Reply #9 on: November 09, 2007, 04:00:31 PM »
Quote from: "deathbydanish"
Quote from: "Whiskey11"
You would most likely be better off upgrading the spring and getting a true tightbore... the TM M14 hop up is amazing especially at high velocity.

Or I could just buy your M14 that I just saw for sale  ;)


Yeah that works :)  Unfortunately its not mine, i'm listing it for my roommate who bought it from me last year.  :)
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« Reply #10 on: November 09, 2007, 04:18:21 PM »
Quote from: "Ganef"
From what I have heard, the rifled barrel only works below 1Jule, and if I remember right was really great for pistols but not much else.

I have heard M14's really have an outstanding hop up and range. I would be interested to see what you would have to say about the rifled barrel from experience but I wouldn't invest in one to see if it is any good.


Yeah I was going to ask if anyone knew of a U.S. retailer that sold these, so far I can only find them overseas. My reasoning for wanting to try these was to get a stock AEG that already had good accuracy/range and then upgrade it for the sole purpose of long range skirmishing. Also I was tired of chronoing AEGs in Phoenix and having them shoot at a legal FPS, then going some place where the altitude change was drastic enough to make the AEG shoot too hot.
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« Reply #11 on: November 10, 2007, 10:10:16 AM »
Long range skirmishing in airsoft is a pipe dream.

If you cant get close enough, your tactics suck.
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« Reply #12 on: November 10, 2007, 04:11:40 PM »
Quote from: "deathbydanish"
Quote from: "Ganef"
From what I have heard, the rifled barrel only works below 1Jule, and if I remember right was really great for pistols but not much else.

I have heard M14's really have an outstanding hop up and range. I would be interested to see what you would have to say about the rifled barrel from experience but I wouldn't invest in one to see if it is any good.

Yeah I was going to ask if anyone knew of a U.S. retailer that sold these, so far I can only find them overseas. My reasoning for wanting to try these was to get a stock AEG that already had good accuracy/range and then upgrade it for the sole purpose of long range skirmishing. Also I was tired of chronoing AEGs in Phoenix and having them shoot at a legal FPS, then going some place where the altitude change was drastic enough to make the AEG shoot too hot.


They should have them at Poweredge. Last time I was at the store the fellow there was really talking it up for low power setups. I also remember a thread on airsoftforum that detailed a guy that was getting wonderful accuracy out of his high powered Saw with the twist barrel and .28 bbs. I am not rich enough to test this out of course.
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« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2007, 11:46:16 PM »
Your best bet is to up the FPS and get a DB Customs barrel if you aren't too sure about the TK Twist barrel.
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« Reply #14 on: November 15, 2007, 09:41:47 AM »
Quote from: "Vince"
, at velocities over 1 joule,


How do you have a "velocity of 1 joule"?  Velocity is a measure of magnitude and direction, or distance traveled per time, where a joule is a measure of work done, or force per unit length.
Wouldn't it be more accurate to state velocities above X-ft/s  or energies over X-joules...?
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