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« Reply #15 on: January 17, 2007, 12:09:27 AM »
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I'd be perfectly happy having a grunge job. Only problem is, all the spics took all of them, so I'm still jobless.


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« Reply #16 on: January 17, 2007, 03:34:08 PM »
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Not all the time poor people looking for work.

How often do you see illegals doing things to exploit Americans?  Ever drive down in one of the "barrios?"  They'll slam their brakes on, walk infront of your car, try and break into your car, try to rob you, steal what they can, sell drugs, etc...  Yes, Americans do this too, but it's just escalating that these people shouldn't be here to start with.

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The United States shouldn't have stopped at Arizona & Texas, should have taken it ALL, all the way to south of CHILE, we're being over-run by Japanese Economically (toyota,etc, fuji film, all technologies) and Mexicans are destroy our cities like Termites destroying a Log Cabin. My house has been robbed twice, and they're still prowling around scoping out the neighborhoods. Can't walk down the street without being descriminated for being WHITE. My Step-Brother's Car got totalled, and he was injured, guy driving had no insurance along with the other 5 beeners in the car, they took off of course. My education was held back because the MEXICAN KIDS CAN'T LEARN, I started out reading at a 9th grade level in 1st grade, by ninth grade I read at a 1st grade level, until I hit college at 16, because I got tired of the drugs, sex, violence, gang warfare, racial discremenation, lack of advancement. we were stuck on the first week of school for the whole year at Cholla high school (10 blacks, 7 whites, 1200 mexicans). If only I had a thousand clones and exterminate the cacaroaches. (no offense to respectable, honorable, hardworking, upstanding citizens I get fired up about that subject, Illegal immigration IS WRONG and to be supported, THIS IS AMERICA, SPEAK ENGLISH, PAY IN DOLLARS. I can go a whole day without seeing a white person, seeing or hearing a word of english, what the heck man. screw Iraq, mexico's a bigger threat. I was at the mall the other week and couldn't make it anywhere because the place was 90% mexican, and they every two had a stroller, with kids tagging behind them. They're multiplying, and Tax payers are paying for Their Food, Healthcare, Housing, Education(which they waste). It's draining our society people, and this IS REAL, I've stated facts, I've lived in this evironment for 19 years, and don't use racism or descrimination as ammunition against me, it's the truth, and it's persistant among the culture. It happens everyday, whether you've seen it or not, whether you care or not. Whether you really know the truth or not. I'm a LEGAL IMMIGRANT (now a citizen), what am I doing, I've served in Iraq, I've worked with community enrichment organizations, I'm educating myself in order to help this country which gives me freedom, and I'm not using that freedom to robb other people of they're fruits that they worked hard for. That money mexican's make here, goes back to mexico, what does that do to our economy? it's obvious. I'm in business right now competing with illegals, trying to use their business to make money while taking away their consumers. Who says Mexican's do jobs American's don't want to, I couldn't get a job because I either wasn't mexican or didn't speak spanish, THAT MEANS WHITE AMERICANS ARE BEING DESCRIMINATED IN AMERICA. still havn't found a job, had to join the ARMY at 17 to gain some income. When I was on leave from Iraq, I saw Mexican's trying to hurt our Cities with protests, AMERICAN Flags raised UPSIDE DOWN, mexican flags being raised in there place, then I went back to Iraq, I was devastated. It's personal for me. I hate red white and green.


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« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2007, 07:32:23 PM »
Actually your the ignorant one, and yes A GENERALIZATION IS THAT MEXICANS ARE IGNORANT, look at their LOUD MUSIC, can't turn it down you F***er's? Yelling and hollaring, can't you be a god damn civilized person. now there are mexicans that are civilized, BUT THE MAJORITY ARE TRASH, not worthy of the title of human being. they hunt in packs, like wild dogs. preying on the weak, but you stand up to a mexican when he's by himself and he'll shat his pants, then he'll come with his 200 family memebers, not including his cousins yet, and they'll all have guns and knives. they're cowards, and any black person or white person i've talked to, even somoans, say the same things about mexicans. it's the way it is, it's not ignorant, and yes it's a generalization. I'm just not scared to realize the truth and the way it's negatively effecting our society. AMERICA FOR AMERICANS ONLY. let's start a god damn revolution, like the mexicans did with they're protest, HOW DARE THEY ATTACK AMERICA????
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« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2007, 09:20:32 PM »
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Actually your the ignorant one, and yes A GENERALIZATION IS THAT MEXICANS ARE IGNORANT, look at their LOUD MUSIC, can't turn it down you F***er's? Yelling and hollaring, can't you be a god damn civilized person. now there are mexicans that are civilized, BUT THE MAJORITY ARE TRASH, not worthy of the title of human being. they hunt in packs, like wild dogs. preying on the weak, but you stand up to a mexican when he's by himself and he'll shat his pants, then he'll come with his 200 family memebers, not including his cousins yet, and they'll all have guns and knives. they're cowards, and any black person or white person i've talked to, even somoans, say the same things about mexicans. it's the way it is, it's not ignorant, and yes it's a generalization. I'm just not scared to realize the truth and the way it's negatively effecting our society. AMERICA FOR AMERICANS ONLY. let's start a god damn revolution, like the mexicans did with they're protest, HOW DARE THEY ATTACK AMERICA????


Quoted for truth...

And no...I am not a racist...I hate everyone equally...but some more than others...

god damn mexicans...
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« Reply #19 on: January 20, 2007, 12:40:23 AM »
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Actually your the ignorant one, and yes A GENERALIZATION IS THAT MEXICANS ARE IGNORANT, look at their LOUD MUSIC, can't turn it down you F***er's? Yelling and hollaring, can't you be a god damn civilized person. now there are mexicans that are civilized, BUT THE MAJORITY ARE TRASH, not worthy of the title of human being.

Sure, I have no question for the unquestionably scientific and full definitive conclusions of someone that judges the "majority" of an entire country by the actions of handful of immigrants.  FYI:  Ignorance means knowing LESS, not MORE.  If you happen to know the character and culture of every individual of an entire country, then that would create a basis for a credible opinion.  Even simply reading its history would at least help get a better overall picture.  Convincing someone who's entire world view  is completely based on assumptions that seem to be derived from personal experience would have to personally meet the composers of softer and less annoying Mexican music or speech to change his mind (yelling?  Yeah, "Hola, como estas? BIEEEEEEEN!  Y TUUUU???!!!!"  I must have missed that conversation...).  You can bring a horse to water...

On that note on music, the loud and IMHO annoying Nortena genre that's been popularized in northern Mexico and the southwestern US that's popular among immigrants here is more Polish, Czech and Texan in origin, and a lot of people in Mexico can't stand it in the same way a lot of Americans can't stand country music.  But I guess knowing that fact would make me "ignorant," because that's how the logic of a 5000-year old universe of someone that won't take the time to pick up on any information that might fly in the face of what he bases on less knowledge would work.

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like the mexicans did with they're protest, HOW DARE THEY ATTACK AMERICA????


"they're" protest was basically a bunch of people walking down like, Central Ave.  I can't even begin to see how that can somehow be construed as an attack on the U.S. without some heavy drinking.
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« Reply #20 on: January 20, 2007, 12:55:45 AM »
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And no...I am not a racist...I hate everyone equally...but some more than others...

god damn mexicans...


Hating people more than others due to race is racism.  Unless you've become a Dadaist, then the statement you made is completely nonsensical.  That's starting to not suprise me though, as that seems to be the pattern with people that share this particular point of view.
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« Reply #21 on: January 20, 2007, 01:13:34 AM »
I don't think the immigration issue would be such a hot topic if the immigrants, and I use that term loosely, from mexico made a greater effort to fit into the culture.  However, they come here, refuse to learn english or learn very little, they expect everything to be in spanish to suit them.  They use Emergency rooms like doctors offices, they don't take their neighbors into consideration when they blast music all hours of the day and night.  Honestly, if they just tried to fit in a little better I don't think most people would pay any attention to them.  Let me also say that I am not advocating that they give up their culture, but basic communication with the native population is a requirement no matter where you are going to live.
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« Reply #22 on: January 20, 2007, 01:41:11 AM »
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However, they come here, refuse to learn english or learn very little, they expect everything to be in spanish to suit them. They use Emergency rooms like doctors offices, they don't take their neighbors into consideration when they blast music all hours of the day and night.


I agree that communications skills and awareness of local norms and customs would benefit anyone looking to live in the U.S.  However, people have been judging the character of every single Mexican on Earth based on the actions of people who haven't done the aforementioned and grouping everyone into the "they" and don't bother recognizing that undesirable behavior is ALWAYS the result of individual choice.  No nation or culture can make you do anything without forcing you to, whether good, evil, or Beyond Good and Evil.  Recognizing something like, we'll say, crime as an individual action leaves no room for an US versus THEM plot because the criminals can be anyone on any side, and in truth, things like crime and crappy music are universal.  Would it be safe to say that some Mexicans do bad things?  Of course.  Americans do bad things too; As do Canadians, lion tamers, chimney sweepers, and albinos.  But people tend to forget the "some" part, and it can be quite irritating.
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« Reply #23 on: January 20, 2007, 12:14:11 PM »
Well its hard not to use generalizations when addressing a problem that is so widespread.  The issue, as I see it is less of a racial issue, and more of a cultural difference.  I would be just as opposed to any ethnicity coming to America, and not integrating themselves into the languague, and acceptable norms of the society.  Additionally you can not overlook the fact that by entering the United States illegally they are breaking the law.  If i speed in front of a police officer, I get a ticket.  So why then do illegal aliens not get arrested more regularly?  Also, please don't tell me that illegal aliens are just hard working people looking for a better life.  If that is the case, then why is Arizona, and the Phoenix area in particular one of the biggest areas for identity theft?  The fact is that there is a large portion of the illegal alien community that are criminals pure and simple.
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« Reply #24 on: January 20, 2007, 04:45:12 PM »
Also keep in mind the U.S., in my opinion, is a much better place to be raised, in pretty much all aspects.
I don't blame the Mexican population for wanting to come to America, coming illegally is wrong, don't misinterpret me, but I do see their point of view.
How many of us can say we would like to migrate to Mexico?
I probably wouldn't even use one hand to count the number, save for missionaries, but we would see it as a rule of thumb to the Spanish language, so on that point i'm with you as well.

Using the sweeping generalization that Mexicans are all ignorant, listen to loud music, are 'trash' and can't be civilized is complete bullshit though.
I listen to loud music all the time, if it is annoying the hell out of you, come tell me, and i'll turn it down.
I'm in my home, with my music, i'll listen to it however loud I want, yet it is common courtesy for me to turn it down if a neighboring house asks.
Do I have to turn it down? Hell no. Will I turn it down? Of course.
Have you ever tried to ask them to turn their music down?
Most people, that includes Mexicans, yes, they are people.., will comply to someones simple, COURTEOUS request, if it is in reason.

Supporter, if you happen to hate everyone, some more than others, like DxH said, that's racism.
Ending a post with "damn Mexicans" just proves your ignorance towards not only the meaning of "racism" but also of Mexicans in general.
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« Reply #25 on: January 20, 2007, 07:02:59 PM »
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So why then do illegal aliens not get arrested more regularly? Also, please don't tell me that illegal aliens are just hard working people looking for a better life. If that is the case, then why is Arizona, and the Phoenix area in particular one of the biggest areas for identity theft?


1.  That's a good point.  I think its probably for the same reason that you don't see truckloads of people being hauled off jail for downloading pirated music.  Sometimes, market dynamics are too strong to make the application of some laws practical.  In the music market, there's the issue of having to buy an entire CD for one song.  In the labor market, there's the issue of being forced to deal with minimum wage and other labor laws to get simple jobs done cost-effectively.  In either case, acting outside of the law ends up the easiest way to go.  I'm not saying either side in either case is right or wrong, but its this sort of thing that can be an indication that laws may need to adjust to the market, or vice-versa.

2.  I avoid saying that illegal aliens are JUST hardworking people, etc. as that is also a generalization.

3. I'd have to question the basis for the assumption that Phoenix is the center of identity theft because of illegal immigration, as Southern California and some parts of Texas have a much larger population of illegal immigrants, and they are not the center of identity theft.  Also, some of the methods and skills needed for identity theft, such as pretexting, require a strong, confident command of the English language and enough cultural background to convince someone that you are the victim you are masquerading as.  It may be prudent to double-check the stats on identify theft cases to verify the assumption.
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« Reply #26 on: January 20, 2007, 07:14:42 PM »
Yeah so what? America rules, everyone wants a piece.  Well guess what, if all these illegals keep pouring in, there won't be any pieces left!  And guess who gets left out? The children of my generation gets left out.  They deserve to be here, immigrants are 2nd priority.  I don't mind them pouring in, and I'm not a racist, but they suck.  Not all of them, just the ones that are to goddamned lazy/ignorant/stuck-up/stupid or whatever their problem is to learn English.  I don't mean Mexicans who don't know English suck, the ones that don't even try are the worst, you know what I mean. They seem to be satisfied cleaning my yard, a low-skill, low-pay dead-end job.  You can't come to someone else's country and not learn to speak like those countrymen do.  I'd never go and live somewhere foreign where I would only use my English, that's just bad form.  Except Canada.  But I would never live there.

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« Reply #27 on: January 20, 2007, 07:25:16 PM »
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« Reply #28 on: January 20, 2007, 07:30:44 PM »
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They seem to be satisfied cleaning my yard, a low-skill, low-pay dead-end job.

Babybackribs said he's willing to do a grunge job.  Perhaps you could hook him up, help out your countryman or whatever:

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I'd be perfectly happy having a grunge job.  Only problem is, all the spics took all of them, so I'm still jobless.
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« Reply #29 on: January 20, 2007, 07:49:52 PM »
I'm not letting him in my house.  Ever.  Besides I have a very friendly ENGLISH speaking self employed man named Ishmael, and get this, he does all the work of all those "yard crews" by himself.  He's great.
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