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Pizza Patron and the Non-issue of Accepting Foreign Currency
« on: January 15, 2007, 12:49:32 PM »
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It seems some Americans (probably the first to offer dollars in payment overseas, if they ever travelled abroad) take umbrage at this practice of Padron Pizza.


From the Ludwig Von Mises Institute:

http://blog.mises.org/archives/006142.asp
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« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2007, 01:09:42 PM »
No, dude, you're reading the wrong article.

Just read about how Pizza Patron is shitty.
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« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2007, 01:18:37 PM »
I have actually never eaten there, just drove by it on the way to the Mesa Arts Centre on Saturday.  I'd have to say that most Pizza places aren't that great through.

Papa Johns =  cardboard
Pizza Hut = socks, but with heartburn
Little Ceasar's = dollar store spagettios.
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« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2007, 09:56:06 PM »
I think its horrible.  All this does is say "Ok Mexico, you win, if you wanna illegally hop our borders, we'll support you in you pizza needs."  They are promoting illegal immigration.  And all this news coverage is only helping.
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« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2007, 10:34:56 PM »
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I think its horrible. All this does is say "Ok Mexico, you win, if you wanna illegally hop our borders, we'll support you in you pizza needs." They are promoting illegal immigration.


I'm not quite sure I understand the logic behind this.  As stated in the Mises bit, there are businesses along the Canadian border that will accept Canadian currency, not because they want to encourage Canadian immigration, but because Canadians show up with Canadian dollars.  On my visit to the Teotihuacan pyramids in Mexico, I had the option of paying for souvenirs with US dollars or Euros.  I highly doubt this was a result of American and European immigration into Mexico.  The pyramids just tend to attract Americans and European tourists who typically still carry some of their currency with them, so the market accommodates.

Judging by the fact that Pizza Patron will only be accepting MXP until February, it appears that they wanted to capitalize on the aftermath of Mexican tourism; ie, the leftover 40MXP left over from my Holiday trip to Meh-hee-co I still have in my wallet.  I really don't have any other use for it, and I'm not making a trip to Nogales to spend the equivalent of $4.00USD.  This has nothing to do with illegal immigration, just clever marketing.
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« Reply #5 on: January 16, 2007, 03:24:33 PM »
That's because the American dollar is worth something.  And how many mexican tourists do you see roaming around south Phoenix looking for crappy pizza?
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« Reply #6 on: January 16, 2007, 03:31:08 PM »
Here's what I don't get... why is this such a big deal?

Aren't illegals poor people who are coming here looking for work? How many pesos are they really bringing with them?

It's not like mexicans are rushing across the border because a pizza place is accepting pesos.

Some people have pesos sitting around unspent from trips they've taken, and now they have something here to spend it on. I wish they'd have a deal like that where they accept Egyptian currency, cuz I could buy a few pizzas with what I have left from a trip.
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« Reply #7 on: January 16, 2007, 06:37:23 PM »
Not all the time poor people looking for work.

How often do you see illegals doing things to exploit Americans?  Ever drive down in one of the "barrios?"  They'll slam their brakes on, walk infront of your car, try and break into your car, try to rob you, steal what they can, sell drugs, etc...  Yes, Americans do this too, but it's just escalating that these people shouldn't be here to start with.

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« Reply #8 on: January 16, 2007, 07:58:57 PM »
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That's because the American dollar is worth something.

One American dollar ~= 10.01MXN to be exact.  Calculate the fact that the dollar is issued in Federal Reserve Notes backed by a national debt rather than by an intrinsically valuable resource (silver, for instance), and its actually worth less than $0.10, bringing it below the value of the peso.  Since Mexico's central bank works in a similar fashion, I'd imagine the value of the peso is also technically lower, but I can't find any facts on this to calculate its debt-added value.

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And how many mexican tourists do you see roaming around south Phoenix looking for crappy pizza?

As I have already mentioned in my last post, Pizza Patron seems to be marketing to tourists that have returned to the U.S. from a vacation in Mexico.  Although I do know of one particular Mexican tourist who wants to visit the Grand Canyon and some meteor crash sites in AZ.

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Not all the time poor people looking for work.

How often do you see illegals doing things to exploit Americans? Ever drive down in one of the "barrios?" They'll slam their brakes on, walk infront of your car, try and break into your car, try to rob you, steal what they can, sell drugs, etc... Yes, Americans do this too, but it's just escalating that these people shouldn't be here to start with.


1.  Not often.

2.  I have driven in the barrios, but I've had greater issues with people slamming brakes and walking in front of me (and honking at me for turning into a 35MPH road that they're doing 70MPH on and turning an SUV into a lane without using a blinker or slowing down while talking on a cell) in Tempe and downtown Scottsdale than any other part of the valley thus far.  As far as carjacking, robbing, stealing, etc goes, that usually goes with urban living, almost always in poor neighborhoods (except Guadalupe, which has lower crime rates and really slow, but civil traffic in comparison to its neighboring cities).  Ergo, lacking a green card doesn't make anyone commit violent crimes or drive recklessly.  Increases in urban crime do correlate with urban growth, however.
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« Reply #9 on: January 16, 2007, 08:17:11 PM »
Pizza Patron did this for one reason, and one reason only, PRESS.  And they got it, hell even we are talking about them.

Methinks that they got at least one smart "persona" on the board.   :roll:
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« Reply #10 on: January 16, 2007, 08:32:23 PM »
Dxh, how often do you drive down there?  I go atleast once a week, and atleast once, I have to deal with that shit.
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« Reply #11 on: January 16, 2007, 08:35:17 PM »
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Pizza Patron did this for one reason, and one reason only, PRESS. And they got it, hell even we are talking about them.


Well, I'm not sure if they wanted *quite* this much coverage, since they're now recieveing death threats as well.  But know I know what to do with my $40.00MXN.  Clever original marketing + free publicity = muchos pesos.
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« Reply #12 on: January 16, 2007, 11:13:47 PM »
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Not all the time poor people looking for work.

How often do you see illegals doing things to exploit Americans?  Ever drive down in one of the "barrios?"  They'll slam their brakes on, walk infront of your car, try and break into your car, try to rob you, steal what they can, sell drugs, etc...  Yes, Americans do this too, but it's just escalating that these people shouldn't be here to start with.

Fucking a...

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The United States shouldn't have stopped at Arizona & Texas, should have taken it ALL, all the way to south of CHILE, we're being over-run by Japanese Economically (toyota,etc, fuji film, all technologies) and Mexicans are destroy our cities like Termites destroying a Log Cabin. My house has been robbed twice, and they're still prowling around scoping out the neighborhoods. Can't walk down the street without being descriminated for being WHITE. My Step-Brother's Car got totalled, and he was injured, guy driving had no insurance along with the other 5 beeners in the car, they took off of course. My education was held back because the MEXICAN KIDS CAN'T LEARN, I started out reading at a 9th grade level in 1st grade, by ninth grade I read at a 1st grade level, until I hit college at 16, because I got tired of the drugs, sex, violence, gang warfare, racial discremenation, lack of advancement. we were stuck on the first week of school for the whole year at Cholla high school (10 blacks, 7 whites, 1200 mexicans). If only I had a thousand clones and exterminate the cacaroaches. (no offense to respectable, honorable, hardworking, upstanding citizens I get fired up about that subject, Illegal immigration IS WRONG and to be supported, THIS IS AMERICA, SPEAK ENGLISH, PAY IN DOLLARS. I can go a whole day without seeing a white person, seeing or hearing a word of english, what the heck man. screw Iraq, mexico's a bigger threat. I was at the mall the other week and couldn't make it anywhere because the place was 90% mexican, and they every two had a stroller, with kids tagging behind them. They're multiplying, and Tax payers are paying for Their Food, Healthcare, Housing, Education(which they waste). It's draining our society people, and this IS REAL, I've stated facts, I've lived in this evironment for 19 years, and don't use racism or descrimination as ammunition against me, it's the truth, and it's persistant among the culture. It happens everyday, whether you've seen it or not, whether you care or not. Whether you really know the truth or not. I'm a LEGAL IMMIGRANT (now a citizen), what am I doing, I've served in Iraq, I've worked with community enrichment organizations, I'm educating myself in order to help this country which gives me freedom, and I'm not using that freedom to robb other people of they're fruits that they worked hard for. That money mexican's make here, goes back to mexico, what does that do to our economy? it's obvious. I'm in business right now competing with illegals, trying to use their business to make money while taking away their consumers. Who says Mexican's do jobs American's don't want to, I couldn't get a job because I either wasn't mexican or didn't speak spanish, THAT MEANS WHITE AMERICANS ARE BEING DESCRIMINATED IN AMERICA. still havn't found a job, had to join the ARMY at 17 to gain some income. When I was on leave from Iraq, I saw Mexican's trying to hurt our Cities with protests, AMERICAN Flags raised UPSIDE DOWN, mexican flags being raised in there place, then I went back to Iraq, I was devastated. It's personal for me. I hate red white and green.
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« Reply #13 on: January 16, 2007, 11:27:12 PM »
I'd be perfectly happy having a grunge job.  Only problem is, all the spics took all of them, so I'm still jobless.
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« Reply #14 on: January 17, 2007, 12:06:31 AM »
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If only I had a thousand clones and exterminate the cacaroaches.


You're not alone.  Ethnic groups have historically become the pariahs of social problems in every culture, especially when that group is seen to have raised an advantage for themselves over the previous social power.  Economic ails in the collapse of the German economy early last century brought about a similar sentiment against the foreign "they" of their time.

Funny how history repeats itself when it isn't read.
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