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« Reply #60 on: March 15, 2007, 08:54:44 AM »
As somebody who just turned 18 and has dealt with the repercussions of other minors coming in here and giving minors like me a bad rep, I have a lot to say.  But I won't, I figure it'll just spark more whining.

What I do want to say is directed to all of you who said "See you at Lion Claws" or "I'm going to Lion Claws" or something along those lines.  Maybe you don't understand this:

Quote from: "John Lu"
Standard age limit is 18, however, we do from time to time allow very mature underage attendees (Parental Consent Form must be signed and notarized) to participate with an adult guardian present (case by case).


Emphasis on the very mature.  Also, note that it says "case by case"- this is not standard procedure!  They will only let minors play if they feel you are safe, knowledgable, and a good addition to the Lion Claws game.  Good luck.
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« Reply #61 on: March 15, 2007, 09:32:51 AM »
The ultimate irony of this whole concept of an 'island' or 'theme park' is that it doesn't work for Airsoft. We in AA have a whole litany of locations all over the state, some for winter, some for summer, mountainous, desert and urban (sort of). A major part of the fun of the annual game calendar is the variety. Can't imagine going to the same place all the time. How boring.......
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« Reply #62 on: March 15, 2007, 09:37:39 AM »
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Accordingly, I will no longer be associated with the Marauders as it has become.

Welcome back.


Wow, this post really set off everybody. Certainly shows that the Marauders concept is in total disagreement with the rest of the Airsoft communnity. Clearly it started out as one thing and Doug and company signed up for it. But then the real purpose was out and here we are. Seems like the under 18 crowd feels disenfranchised from AA and views Marauders as the alternative. Don't understand that as we have a sponshorship mechanism for anyone under 18. They then have to earn their place and as we know from history several have done that successfully. Guess the majority of them don't want to have to go through an entry process and thus end up getting exploited. Too bad.
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« Reply #63 on: March 15, 2007, 10:37:55 AM »
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As somebody who just turned 18 and has dealt with the repercussions of other minors coming in here and giving minors like me a bad rep, I have a lot to say.  But I won't, I figure it'll just spark more whining.

What I do want to say is directed to all of you who said "See you at Lion Claws" or "I'm going to Lion Claws" or something along those lines.  Maybe you don't understand this:

Quote from: "John Lu"
Standard age limit is 18, however, we do from time to time allow very mature underage attendees (Parental Consent Form must be signed and notarized) to participate with an adult guardian present (case by case).

Emphasis on the very mature.  Also, note that it says "case by case"- this is not standard procedure!  They will only let minors play if they feel you are safe, knowledgable, and a good addition to the Lion Claws game.  Good luck.


I have vouched for several minors at a number of national ops and have yet to regret that decision.
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« Reply #64 on: March 15, 2007, 11:25:13 AM »
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I have vouched for several minors at a number of national ops and have yet to regret that decision.


Even Pilz? :twisted:
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« Reply #65 on: March 15, 2007, 11:46:53 AM »
yes, even Pilz....  dude had my back on Sunday.  And it seems his postings have grown up as of late....  he's a good kid.
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« Reply #66 on: March 15, 2007, 01:12:40 PM »
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he's a good kid.


Indeed he is.
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« Reply #67 on: March 15, 2007, 05:08:45 PM »
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Um, wow.
No wonder why I don't airsoft anymore.

 :roll:


Yeah dude, no kidding.

I remember when the Marauders first started, they had a good plan and a right mind set.  By the looks of it, that went right down the shitter.

Why is this thread continuing?  Is there that much that needs to be said about them?  Does the minors/adults debate need to be brought up again?
Let it die.  It's a sham, every reasonable person on here can see that.  For those that have everything handed to them on a silver platter, well, they'll learn in a few years.
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« Reply #68 on: March 15, 2007, 05:44:15 PM »
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It's a sham, every reasonable person on here can see that.  For those that have everything handed to them on a silver platter, well, they'll learn in a few years.


Funny thing you say that cause many of us "older" guys already knew that when it first started.  This was just round two from the original failure/scam.
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« Reply #69 on: March 15, 2007, 05:52:47 PM »
so ur saying the marauders are failures?
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« Reply #70 on: March 15, 2007, 06:04:30 PM »
You do not know what the issue is so how can you begin to understand the conversation?  That is Not a bad thing.

No Im not saying the marauders are failures, the marauders are the way they are due to one person's vision and goal. The marauders started out as a team then it was manipulated/used to benifit a sole person. If people get used along the way so be it, that is the old hidden attitude.  I'm not going to lead a horse to water. We have been down this road before and like I said, all this is/was a second attempt at drawing in new innocent people to support one person.
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« Reply #71 on: March 15, 2007, 06:13:50 PM »
listen up everyone, unlike mauraders i charge nothing to go to a rebel union game, we have a small battlefield, but its nothing to scoff at, and if your like me and you think its crazy to ask 3000 for a membership, then come play with us, night games are lit and its every weekend, so im now stating that i stand against everything that founded mauraders. its not for profit, its about the love of the game, the feeling everyone who picked up their first airsoft gun felt. thats the importance of the game.
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« Reply #72 on: March 15, 2007, 07:49:10 PM »
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Yes, maybe your folks should invest in your COLLEGE education, you know, seeing as how you spelled college incorrectly.


Get off your high pony there kid.  

Goodnight.  At some moments I feel the need to go on a random punching tangent and this is one of those moments.



high pony?
whats wrong with going to college?


The general term is "Get off your high horse."  This word "horse" was altered to "pony" in this specific case to fit your age.

I also see nothing in my post that has any negative views about going to college.  I was simply stating that your attempt to diminish the value of another player only made you look more retarded.
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« Reply #73 on: March 15, 2007, 11:22:44 PM »
Alright I felt this had to be addressed. It seems they want to post blogs then delete them as if they never existed. And complain that we take them as fact(shouldn't we?!).

When I first started playing with the Marauders the one thing I like the most was the lack of elitism. No one complained when you did something stupid or had lower powered guns or even the right gear. But this new blog completly shatters what the Marauders stood for. In less than a week they go from lax to super Elitism on problems of their own doing. They complain about supermen, unlimited ammoers, hot guns, no tactics, in proper gear, and lack of respect towards minors. They had rules against all of this and never enforced them. So now because of your own errors you are going to turn your back and insult every person that helped build the Marauders in popularity? Yes the games had some people problems and I know exactly who was doing what. And every week they always came back? All you had to do was not invite them back. You caved and now you've turned on everyone. And you insult the tactics of certain people and rambo? I know thats directed at me. Im sorry I played and was aggressive towards the enemy. Im sorry I think beyond the current fight. And as for gear? Only Southpaw, a few ACUs, and myself wore anything other than US Camo. So im sorry we treated airsoft like a hobby. And flecktarn is real military bdus.

They also complain about how we don't treat minors with respect. When posts in the VERY TOPIC reflect why this is so. Enough said. Im tired of typing so ill just do what he said and copy and paste. If your going to make a post ABOUT YOUR ORGANIZATION be prepared for people to read it and take it for what it says. We are not mind readers so what you say we must take as it is.

My final words are thus. I thought the Marauders would be an elitism free enviroment. Where those who simply wanted to play for the sake of playing could, which it was. But it seems you were just playing people looking for those that could help fund your hidden agenda. It's not our fault paintballers would return to an empty field to play. Its not the masses fault a few people cheated and were never removed. Its not our fault people broke into and destroyed your stuff. The attitude you have show is equal to if not more so than the paintballers you hate so much.

and as requested

The Island is...

A tactical training center, not just used exclusive for airsoft

The Island Will Include:

1. A Firing Range

2. At least 8 different fields spread out over 40 acres (that's 1.7 million sq. ft.). Initially, at least one field is projected to be completed by June 24th 2007. Additional construction will be ongoing with the next field projected to opened between October and December 2007.

Fields can be played:

1.  Individually

2. In conjunction with 1 or more other fields

3. Or as one giant field

Types of Activities/Events:

1. Marauder (MTT) training exercises

2. Open Games (Open to Members and Annual Pass Holders Only)

3. Mil-Sim Scenario Games (Open to Members and Annual Pass Holders Only)

4. Private Events you may want to host overseen by MTT personnel.

You may play at The Island if you have:

1. An Annual Pass ($200, $500 as of May 1st)

2. A Marauder's Membership ($200, $500 as of May 1st)

3. A Direct Invitation from a Member or Annual Pass Holder (Free for 1st event). Invitees, may apply for a Membership or Annual Pass, and if approved by MTT, will be given after Invitee has completed 2 days of safety and general airsoft instruction provided by MTT.  For every Invitee that meets the entry  requirements and becomes a member or pass holder, the Invitor will be credited with $20 currently, or $50 after May 1st.  Credit maybe used to purchase supplies, equipment, admission fees to scenario games (open games are free to all members and annual pass holders), next year's annual pass or membership, etc...

What is the Difference Between being an Annual Pass Holder and Member?

The two receive basically the same benefits, but a Member is expected to obtain official team equipment (uniform, gun, etc), show up to training classes (whenever feasible, not mandatory), and hopefully join us on National Ops to represent the best of Marauders, and above all, play at a higher standard using skills, tactics, teamwork, and above all, keeping safety in the fore front of every action while also ensuring the safety of others around him.

 Annual Passes and Membership maybe purchased now from Mike, but your official start date doesn't kick in until the field officially opens, which is projected to be around June 24, 2007, and will expire June 25th, 2008 or 365 days after date of purchase for those purchased after June 24th, 2007.

Where is The Island?

The Island is Nowhere. There is no "Island" There never was, and there never will be. I don't even know what you are talking about. No hablo Ingles.

You will not be told the location of The Island, nor will it be made public. Only Members and Annual Pass Holders will know its location after we have deemed you worthy of its existence. If it is discovered you that you have revealed the location of The Island to others who are not a Member or Pass Holder, your Membership or Pass will be terminated.  Again, it is vital we keep this location a secret, and it is up to you, to not reveal directions, headings, coordinates, cross roads, etc...others, as we need to avoid scenarios similiar to the one's we've seen happen at the old Southwest Paintball Field (Arson, Theft, Vandalism, Tresspassing) or potentially new one's like idiots showing up to play with hot guns, unlimited ammo, or their Superman Syndrome of Invincibility. Oh, wait, that already happens. So as much as we all want to shove The Island in the face of the "BB"/"Poo-Poo" players, or whatever those whiners are called (they don't deserve the respect of being formally recognized), its better to let them keep on playing their little war games in the middle of nowhere for free! (you get what you pay...nothing) with no real object, except never surrender never call your hits, no tactics, except for shoot, for God's sake keep shooting, oh no my 3000 round mag just went empty!!!!, no team work, no safety, except for Tom Cruise sun glasses, looking at my front teef, I've got no front teef , no regard for minors, as under 18 means you still have your brain cells because you haven't drank or smoked them away, no concept of mil-sim, except for dressing up like Rambo or whatever the latest fashion of tiger stripes is, no sense of capitalism, because I'm broke no one else is allowed to started a business and Ford should just give their car away cause it only has $300 of metal in it, no vision, because I grew up in a sad little town, and no one can go anywhere, do nothing with their life, even if they went to college for both a Bachelors and Masters Degree, spend 70 hours working in the fab to earn just enough money to buy a 40 acre property, that he may just use to play on and create something bigger, better, than anything currently available, instead of renting some one elses paintball field for $800 a month that he will never see again.

Sorry for having vision, if this upsets you, please go buy yourself some land and let me play on it for free so you can have the honor of spitting in my face and calling me a dirty capitalist...

Victor

P. S. Hope this answers all your questions, and if it doesn't I frankly don't give a shit (directed towards those "BB" wannabe's). Its my land, my MySpace page, my blog, mine all of it mine!!!!!

P.P.S. I hope one of those "BB" wannabe's copies and pastes this blog on their "BB" forum, and creates another explosion of fear. Fear is the path to the dark side. Fear leads to anger. Anger leads to hate. Hate leads to suffering.

Good Night
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« Reply #74 on: March 15, 2007, 11:30:08 PM »
hahahaha

I think he's upset that he went to school for all those advanced degrees and still has to toil away seventy hours (a week, he meant to say. Unfortunately, it seems he has smoked and drank all of his brain cells away. I know the land is unincorporated, far, and shitty, but I don't think you can buy a cup of dirt of your own for seventy hours of wages at anywhere except maybe a whorehouse) in the fab to buy a piece of shit in the middle of nowhere.

This thread is way past it's shelf life by now.
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