Ar-15

[Sergeant First Class Keenan]

Oh and I have 2 ameetec AR's great weapons...... I recomend the Preditor free float upper with an eotech....... good times

[searscr]

I believe this is the firearm our young friend is talking about.

http://www.cabelas.com/cabelas/en/conte ... hyId=20005

I have also been in the library at Cabelas and have seen what was labled a M16 VN.  It was in an oak display box, and it was engraved in gold lettering to commemerate the Vietnam war.  Its did not have a price on it, and I did not ask.  My father always told me, "If you have to ask the price, you cannot afford it."

[XavierMace]

Well then he was wrong on both counts.  It's not an M16 (as we already knew) nor is it an Armalite.

2 for 2 buddy.

I see a DPMS for $900, but that is the cheapest I see.  That has their standard Varm front end on it.

[SilentDragon]

Check out a gun show next time it is in town.  I picked up my AR-15 for about $750.  Made by Olympic Arms.. the rifle is pretty nice.  Didn't come with a carry handle or rear sight... so i just threw the one i had on my Classic Army M15A4.  Same thing with the handguard.  Looks just like an M4... but is only semi-auto...

[extremist]

ill take that bet

[noVtecHERE]

i will be hitting up the gun show now i guess lol...

[Ares]

Why strive for the cheap rout? Just save for a good long time and get something really nice.

Case and point, I have been saving money from paychecks since the beginning of the summer for an M1A, and I'm only about $200 away from walking in and buying a $1500 weapon. I did not come on here and ask where I could find an M1A for $600.

[XavierMace]

^^

It's more fun for the rest of us when they learn the lesson the hard way.

I love my Ameetec Tactical Master and I am looking at picking up a POF P-308 (Essentially a Gas Piston AR-10).  The Tactical Master was like $1,700 and the P-308 will probably be pushing $3,200 when all is said and done.  The cheapest gun I have owned was my Glock 19.

For the most part you get what you pay for.  You can try to scrape up enough parts to build an AR-15 for $600 out the door or you can save up and get a decent one.  But if you go the cheap route, expect to regret it 6 months or a year down the line.

There are very few guns that are simply a good deal (like the XD's), most of the time when you are getting a rifle for under $800-$1,000 you are getting a POS.  You can get an AK for $350, but it's essentially going to be a disposable gun.  Just save up and get a decent gun.

[Ganef]

For the most part you get what you pay for.  You can try to scrape up enough parts to build an AR-15 for $600 out the door or you can save up and get a decent one.  But if you go the cheap route, expect to regret it 6 months or a year down the line.

most of the time when you are getting a rifle for under $800-$1,000 you are getting a POS. .

I disagree, I can show you a price map of building an AR for under $1K that will not be a " POS ". I had a homebuild with an LMT upper and ameetech lower. I took the time to put the lower parts kit together myself. It was not a POS, it ate wolf and spat led all day long.
Arms isnt always a market of "you get what you pay for" it is sometimes a case of "I dont want to know how it goes together, or care to do it myself so I will pay through the nose to have someone put it together for me." DIY guns are not hard to do yourself and can save you cash.

[XavierMace]

^^

I wasn't referring to DIY, I was referring to pre-built.  Show me a decent built AR for under $800.  I gave a $800-$1,000 range because I was referring to guns in general, not AR's specifically.

That said, I highly doubt he has the knowledge or interest in assembling his own lower (or the rest of the gun for that matter) so in his case I stand by my opinion.

Arms isnt always a market of "you get what you pay for" it is sometimes a case of "I dont want to know how it goes together, or care to do it myself so I will pay through the nose to have someone put it together for me." DIY guns are not hard to do yourself and can save you cash.

In which case my point stands.  He is not going to be able to get a decent AR for under $800.  That's the case in any industry, if you have the knowledge to build it your self you can save money.  But for everybody else...

[Ganef]

For the most part you get what you pay for.  You can try to scrape up enough parts to build an AR-15 for $600 out the door or you can save up and get a decent one.  But if you go the cheap route, expect to regret it 6 months or a year down the line.

You clearly bashed building your own. DIY isnt hard, and buying a separate upper and lower isnt realy DIY. There are plenty of good guns under $1K and under $800

http://www.snipercountrypx.com/c-1110-carbines.aspx
look at stag arms, Olympic arms (many under $800), bushmaster.

http://www.bravocompanyusa.com/

http://www.stagarms.com/rightrifles.htm

[gixser13]

I agree with David, I build ALL of my own ARs, I start with a barrel and matching bolt and go from there,

I built plan Jane Ars from 550 using M1S
to SPR that shoot 500 yards from 1200.

If you want to build a nice setup then look no farther then here
http://www.pkfirearms.com/store/start.aspx

[XavierMace]

I wasn't bashing DIY, I was just saying that IMO to build it for $600 you would be cutting some serious corners.  I am all for DIY, IF the person building it has any idea what he is doing.  As you already said a lot of the time they have no idea what they are doing which at best creates a poorly functioning gun, at worse a potentially dangerous one.  DIY is not for everybody.  I personally think that anybody who buys a pre-built computer is an idiot.  However, I also realize most people don't know how to build their own.  Given the purchaser in question I don't think DIY is a viable option.  I could be wrong (I'm not trying to be rude), but so far I haven't seen any indication of that.

Also keep in mind that if he is truly piece parting it, he will need some basic armorers tools which bump up the budget.

Once again, under $1,000 isn't so hard, but under $800 is a different story.

look at stag arms, Olympic arms (many under $800), bushmaster.

I disagree on Oly.  Yes they have cheap AR's but in my opinion (and that of other AR owners I know) they are POS's.  I almost got one but everybody I know tried to talk me out of it.  Then I shot a friends brand new Oly and it had more problems than any other AR I have seen.  I decided to get the Tac Master instead.  I don't regret that in the slightest.

Also, I have stated every time "out the door".  Tax/shipping, etc, pushes most the RRA's, Stag's, etc over the $1k mark.

[mustremember13]

Assualt Weapon is media hype bull shit. The actual term is Carbine.

You can BUILD an AR-15 for pretty cheap, however you need to have the know how. I suggest you buy a lower and upper seperate.  Remember, that with firearms shit is going to be EXPENSIVE compared to Airsoft stuff. REMEMBER you get what you pay for. The more money something cost you the better it's going to be, and the less you'll have to deal with it breaking on your ass later.

Try Del-Ton, they have some great prices. http://www.del-ton.com/

[azsarge]

If you wanna shoot full auto one weekend a month gimme a call bro, I'll even pay you for it!  

What's your DSN? :lol:

mustremember13, So you're saying I should call my M16 a "Carbine?"   :roll: