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« Reply #15 on: November 15, 2007, 10:18:59 PM »
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I'm glad everyone had a good time out at Blackhorse. I had a good time as well, I was exhausted from the long week and lack of sleep so I may have been kinda short with people for that I'm sorry.

90% of the problem at Blackhorse is fear of movement. When to move, were to move too, hell why your moving! Its Airsoft, it doesn't hurt, - bad.


Yes I remember the top one. You told me to move up then yelled reloading. I got 2 feet then HSed by an OPFOR. Hard lesson on the essentials of covering fire.

The last mission showed that as well. Support/Security bottled up in the north corner and just was torn up. Assault ftw ....also next time can you cover Muzzle discipline. To many times I had friendly muzzles pointed at me or my team for no reason.

But as for this topic I would rather NOT have an open section. To many times I've dealt with 18- kids with no understanding of tactics in a fluid environment. They understood the concept of the tactic but had no understanding of how to apply it which to me is WORSE. Since they will argue non stop on how it's how the army does it so should we. Knowing this stuff, as said above, is worthless without application and how to use/change it on the fly. I went to Blackhorse and paid attention to every single thing they said plus what OPFOR was doing. You can't get that experience from books and 2nd hand knowledge. Making a section would just promote those who think rather than know.
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« Reply #16 on: November 15, 2007, 10:30:05 PM »
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Quote from: "Malicious Ind"
I'm glad everyone had a good time out at Blackhorse. I had a good time as well, I was exhausted from the long week and lack of sleep so I may have been kinda short with people for that I'm sorry.

90% of the problem at Blackhorse is fear of movement. When to move, were to move too, hell why your moving! Its Airsoft, it doesn't hurt, - bad.

Yes I remember the top one. You told me to move up then yelled reloading. I got 2 feet then HSed by an OPFOR. Hard lesson on the essentials of covering fire.

The last mission showed that as well. Support/Security bottled up in the north corner and just was torn up. Assault ftw ....also next time can you cover Muzzle discipline. To many times I had friendly muzzles pointed at me or my team for no reason.

But as for this topic I would rather NOT have an open section. To many times I've dealt with 18- kids with no understanding of tactics in a fluid environment. They understood the concept of the tactic but had no understanding of how to apply it which to me is WORSE. Since they will argue non stop on how it's how the army does it so should we. Knowing this stuff, as said above, is worthless without application and how to use/change it on the fly. I went to Blackhorse and paid attention to every single thing they said plus what OPFOR was doing. You can't get that experience from books and 2nd hand knowledge. Making a section would just promote those who think rather than know.


Yeah I'd like to stress the importance of identifying friend from foe, during that last run, one of my teammates got lit up (from relatively close range too) by someone from another lane. Honestly its not hard to tell those of us wearing ACU from the OpFor guys.
« Last Edit: December 31, 1969, 05:00:00 PM by deathbydanish »
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« Reply #17 on: November 15, 2007, 11:46:07 PM »
M80, in the real world, you NEVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER....




...EVER EVER EVER go into a room alone. Thus it wouldn't be in a real Battle Tactics Section. Clearing a room doesn't always require speed, but it requires eyes everywhere, and men. Give me about a minute in a realistic room, or hell, even an empty one, and if you try to enter, I will kill you.
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« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2007, 11:49:23 PM »
i know you never do it alone, but it can be fun to do quick games like that...its all about speed. its one on one, one man in a room, one man searching...have done it before, and it is very different and interesting..
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« Reply #19 on: November 16, 2007, 04:34:46 AM »
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But as for this topic I would rather NOT have an open section. To many times I've dealt with 18- kids with no understanding of tactics in a fluid environment. They understood the concept of the tactic but had no understanding of how to apply it which to me is WORSE. Since they will argue non stop on how it's how the army does it so should we. Knowing this stuff, as said above, is worthless without application and how to use/change it on the fly. I went to Blackhorse and paid attention to every single thing they said plus what OPFOR was doing. You can't get that experience from books and 2nd hand knowledge. Making a section would just promote those who think rather than know.

Thank you. i think the virtue of this thinking cannot be shouted loud enough.  Though i'm still VERY new to airsoft, some of the best advice i've received from others has been ways to incorporate individual skills/talents to environment as opposed to situation.  For every "In situation x, you do x", there are a hundred "But what about y, or z?"  However, i know in certain environments, i (individual) perform better using certain skills over others. As such, tactics become dynamic and personal, though familiar in functionality. This familiarity is only achieved however through practice, both individually and as a group.
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« Reply #20 on: November 16, 2007, 04:36:24 AM »
Unless you're pinned down behind an office chair by OPFOR on the roof, and then you're just screwed!  :cry:
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