any games in phoenix or within 45 minutes. not RU or FA game

[-MAD- SARGE]

Well **** u guys

Classy, I doubt you would say that to our face. I hope you grow up sometime soon before you set things in moition to ruin this for everyone else.

[Schwer_Punkt_91]

oh s*** srry i ment sw corner of guadalupe and higley

My comment was twofold:  Impossible intersection of parallel roads
AND
Impossible for this argument to have to continue again and again.  Please save us the time and do a search on legal vs. illegal game play sites.  Key point: remember that games need to be played OUT OF CITY LIMITS!  Unless it is in a desiganeted Airsoft field.  If you play within city limits, regardless if you get caught or not, your foolishness, ignorance and self-centered attitude is going to get our sport banned from even the remotest sites.

Plus -- running around with an AEG that looks like it can take a life, with no regard for whether the cop on duty cares, will get your life shortened considerably.

[Fat_Santa54]

Well infact we have the premission from the park rangers and i we get the cops called on us (mostly because i ride my bike with my saw on my back) but they dont care

Ok i looked up your AO on google maps and it looks like there is a little soccer park near by, so maybe you have permission from someone to play there (though i doubt it). And it wouldnt be park rangers it would be the sherrif that would give you permission. Park rangers are in places like 4 peaks and national parks.

And riding your bike with a saw on your back.... Ok say we have permission to use 4 peaks or it isn't illegal for us to play there and on the B-line we start waving our guns out the window and messing around or hell if someone looks in our car and sees guns sitting in the back seat gets freaked out and calls the police it doenst mean shit if we are allowed to play where we are going.

So your argument to the police for why you cant get in trouble for displaying a firearm(whihc you probably took the orange tip off) is "The park ranger said we could play in the PUBLIC soccer park right off of a major road.

And also where the fuck are your parents, I'm 18 and if i rode a bike with a gun on my back they would stop me, they made me buy a gun case with a lock before they let me buy my guns (real and airsoft). So why are your parents allowing you to ride a bike with a gun straped to your back.

[WATER-BOY]

Well infact we have the premission from the park rangers and i we get the cops called on us (mostly because i ride my bike with my saw on my back) but they dont care

Ok i looked up your AO on google maps and it looks like there is a little soccer park near by, so maybe you have permission from someone to play there (though i doubt it). And it wouldnt be park rangers it would be the sherrif that would give you permission. Park rangers are in places like 4 peaks and national parks.

And riding your bike with a saw on your back.... Ok say we have permission to use 4 peaks or it isn't illegal for us to play there and on the B-line we start waving our guns out the window and messing around or hell if someone looks in our car and sees guns sitting in the back seat gets freaked out and calls the police it doenst mean s*** if we are allowed to play where we are going.

So your argument to the police for why you cant get in trouble for displaying a firearm(whihc you probably took the orange tip off) is "The park ranger said we could play in the PUBLIC soccer park right off of a major road.

And also where the **** are your parents, I'm 18 and if i rode a bike with a gun on my back they would stop me, they made me buy a gun case with a lock before they let me buy my guns (real and airsoft). So why are your parents allowing you to ride a bike with a gun straped to your back.

Ya so what if i took the orange tip off they cant do anything about it even if i ride around town with it

[Vince]

Ya so what if i took the orange tip off they cant do anything about it even if i ride around town with it

Just shoot you in the dome and kill you and cost your parents money.

[Fat_Santa54]

Federal importation laws require all Airsoft gun barrels to be painted with a minimum 6mm wide blaze orange stripe, as must all "toy guns".

Yep, they cant do crap if you are walking aroudn town with a gun straped to your back? they can do anything from slaping you on the wrists and telling your parents/taking your gun to like what vince said shooting you. You are brandishing a firearm within city limits and you say its a saw wich i belive is a class 3 weapon, and I believe crimes with airsoft guns are tried as if they were a real gun

[WATER-BOY]

they cando that but then they can get in trouble them selves do to the second addmendment

which states

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed

[Fat_Santa54]

Ok Mr. mall ninja A millita is an authorized forced to protect the domestic protection of its people, they are people (over 18) who have lisences for their guns and permits and what not, a bunch of kids playing airsoft in the backyard is not a millita.

I think this topic needs to be closed.

[Morgann0]

they cando that but then they can get in trouble them selves do to the second addmendment

which states

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed

So, by your logic, you will be dead or in jail, and the cops will "get in trouble"  Yeah that sounds like a fair trade.  It'd be worth it to get you off the street.

The 2nd amendment applies to REAL guns, not fake ones.  And it only applies to people 18 or over, which you are not.

The 2nd amendment only means we are allowed to own and keep guns, it does not allow us to parade around town with weapons drawn.  Yes, I realize Arizona is an exception, but you are a minor, and as such, have no rights.  I'd go on, but Doc knows better, and surely has something to say about your incredible stupidity.

[Winters]

Airsoft Restrictions Law, Rules, and Speed Limits

USA
No legal limit on pellet velocity. Generally limits vary from 350 to 400 ft/s (107 to 122 m/s) urban and from 450 to 500 ft/s (137 to 152 m/s) in woodland.
Not legal in New York City Metro (5 Boroughs), portions of Michigan, San Francisco, and Washington DC.
Must comply with two criteria: muzzle permanently colored in blaze orange and all non-licensed trademarks removed for copyright reasons on the Airsoft guns (this law recently expired on the federal level; however certain states still have and enforce it).
others
Import restrictions
All Airsoft guns shipped to the USA must remove copyrighted words when they go through customs.
Barrel markings
Due to extreme similarity between these replicas and real firearms, combined with lobbying efforts from U.S. BB gun manufacturers, some U.S. states and local regulations may prohibit the ownership or use of Airsoft guns. Federal importation laws require all Airsoft gun barrels to be painted with a minimum 6mm wide blaze orange stripe, as must all "toy guns". This measure is intended to avoid confusion with actual firearms.

here is a quote from some other airsofters too.  


"I live in Tucson Arizona,  we were out waiting for some guys to show up for a game of airsoft. Two officers approched us and asked us to leave our "Guns" against the wall as they were and come down to them to "Talk" the one officer whent up to check out the airsoft guns, while the other was checking us for any "Hidden firearms" after that was through we were told that it is a "FELONY" to discharge an airsoft gun "within city limits"

[Fat_Santa54]

I live on a mountain and our property covers most of it, my  about  a year ago 5 of us were up there messing around and some workers saw us and called the police, Now we didnt get in any trouble, but the officer was saying it's still techincly agisnt the law. We were discharging firearms within scottsdale city limits, and very niceley asked us to stop, or go somewhere away from people IE- 4 peaks, sasco

Say a BB were to stray and hit a neighbor walking, highly unlikley, but still I would be fully subject to the law, point is, just because someone said you could airsoft there doesnt mean you are 100% immune to anything that were to happen.

[HotshotM4]

hey out there I have a place to play it is a 3 story structure down town phx. on 5th ave and jackson we play every wed. at 7pm we also BBQ .
but the cost is $10.00 per person because we also have to rent the place out. we average out 3-4 games a night if you want to play and
have some fun come and join us on 5th ave and jackson in phx.

[Meldorian07]

Water-boy...First off stop sitting on the bench go back to school and call you dad for advice maybe you will listen then. Grow up and be mature about what you say and use your head think before you end up in the news. 'cop shoots boy'  "BOY" Be smart double check and be sure that what you are doing is not breaking the law. That means READING, you do know how to do that? and don't reply with your lame come backs just take the advice EVERYONE here has given you. They have most likely tried what you are doing, they know what they are talking about, so shut up and listen. LISTEN TO OLDER PEOPLE THEN YOU!!! :twisted:

[WATER-BOY]

Water-boy...First off stop sitting on the bench go back to school and call you dad for advice maybe you will listen then. Grow up and be mature about what you say and use your head think before you end up in the news. 'cop shoots boy'  "BOY" Be smart double check and be sure that what you are doing is not breaking the law. That means READING, you do know how to do that? and don't reply with your lame come backs just take the advice EVERYONE here has given you. They have most likely tried what you are doing, they know what they are talking about, so shut up and listen. LISTEN TO OLDER PEOPLE THEN YOU!!! :twisted:

who the fuck r u and why are u even saying anything i wasnt talking to u and u have part in this what so ever

[Exarach]

Water-boy...First off stop sitting on the bench go back to school and call you dad for advice maybe you will listen then. Grow up and be mature about what you say and use your head think before you end up in the news. 'cop shoots boy'  "BOY" Be smart double check and be sure that what you are doing is not breaking the law. That means READING, you do know how to do that? and don't reply with your lame come backs just take the advice EVERYONE here has given you. They have most likely tried what you are doing, they know what they are talking about, so shut up and listen. LISTEN TO OLDER PEOPLE THEN YOU!!! :twisted:

who the **** r u and why are u even saying anything i wasnt talking to u and u have part in this what so ever

You are posting on the Arizona Airsoft forum, for all to see, that makes it everybodys business. He gave you some good advice, which is something you could sorely use, next to spell check.