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Offline Harley

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« on: October 22, 2003, 11:33:59 AM »
Irresponsible kids and parents are going to kill this sport!
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« Reply #1 on: October 22, 2003, 11:51:10 AM »
SSDD [xx(]
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« Reply #2 on: October 22, 2003, 05:57:31 PM »
<Sighs.[V]
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« Reply #3 on: October 22, 2003, 07:29:59 PM »
Ohh, don't worry guys, this thing hasn't hardly started. I think it's going to get much worse in the next decade, I just hope we aren't seeing the beginning of the end... only time will tell.
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« Reply #4 on: November 18, 2003, 04:51:41 PM »
i cut of the orange tips too(lol i think we all do) its true its not very fun runnign around acting like a real gun man with an orange tip on the end of your gun, its that simple, the orange tips rob us of our dignity!
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« Reply #5 on: November 18, 2003, 04:58:24 PM »
The topic isnt about the orange tip robbing you of you dignity its about stupid people robbing us of our game. I for one dont care for the orange tip and dont care if you or anyone else takes it off as long as you are smart enough not to bring it into the publics eye. Keep you guns at home until game day and transport them in a case, bag, pillow case, box, or whatever.. just keep it out of the publics eye. Its proven time and time again.. humans are smart people arnt. (i know its from a movie but it makes sense) If they see it they will call the cops that will be 1 more story for them to use against us and its something we dont need.
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« Reply #6 on: November 18, 2003, 06:53:51 PM »
Just plain stupidity,real or fake...you don't run around in public brandishing a gun.Thats a good way to get shot by the police.
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« Reply #7 on: November 18, 2003, 10:03:54 PM »
Airsoft guns are made to be 1/1 replicas and are to be handled with the same respect as a real gun.  And kids should not be allowed to buy them on their own and if their parents buy them for them, the parents should be present when the kids use them to make sure that they are used responsibly.   But this is definately not a product for 13 yr. old kids, get a water gun instead until you are responsible for your actions.  I think that people should take each case, like metioned in the article, and judge them as a seperate incident.  They shouldnt try to slap a "fix all"  solution to it for when a few irresponsible kids and parents fail to use common sense.  I liked what one lady said to me once, " If I see someone pointing what looks like a gun to me, even if it is a toy gun, I'm going to pull out my 9mm because I know that my gun works!"  "I'm not going to risk my own personal saftey."  People need to realize that attitude and get a clue that they are weilding something that looks like real gun and must face the consequences of that.
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« Reply #8 on: November 18, 2003, 10:08:42 PM »
I think that the individuals who take airsoft guns into public think that if they are caught with them, they won't be in much trouble with law enforcement since they are toys. I don't know how they can ignore the fact that they are endangering other people's lives, and their own lives when they do this.
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« Reply #9 on: November 18, 2003, 10:24:57 PM »
ok, i admit that i am 13, but you can not blame all of the 13 year olds for being stupid and bringing airsoft guns into the street with cut off orange tips, because bringing it in public is bad enough, i know, but all of my friends and I, we know the rules, so just don't blame all 13 year olds for this behavior, since some of us are responsible, and our parents know that... so Im just asking you adults or college aged people not to be stereo typicle and blame all of us, and not answer our questions just to try and keep the sport safe, because i do not know if the police know this, but underaged people will continue with the sport, and i know for sure that they will, thats all. but i do agree with most of you.
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« Reply #10 on: November 19, 2003, 01:43:06 PM »
because i do not know if the police know this, but underaged people will continue with the sport, and i know for sure that they will

Wonderful, wonderful attitude, pal.  "I know what the law says, but screw that.  I will do whatever I choose to do."

That's exactly what airsoft needs.  Maybe if the adult players would finally STEP UP and keep the minors (WHO DO NOT BELONG HEE BY LAW!!!!! [unattended, that is])OUT we'd solve a bunch of these problems.  We can't parent them, but we can certainly refuse to feed their efforts to play.  I'm sick of repeating this plea, but I guess it's become my platform these days...
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« Reply #11 on: November 19, 2003, 02:00:07 PM »
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by GOaway6790</i>
<br />ok, i admit that i am 13, but you can not blame all of the 13 year olds for being stupid and bringing airsoft guns into the street with cut off orange tips, because bringing it in public is bad enough, i know, but all of my friends and I, we know the rules, so just don't blame all 13 year olds for this behavior, since some of us are responsible, and our parents know that... so Im just asking you adults or college aged people not to be stereo typicle and blame all of us, and not answer our questions just to try and keep the sport safe, because i do not know if the police know this, but underaged people will continue with the sport, and i know for sure that they will, thats all. but i do agree with most of you.
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it was used in the sense of the majority and if it walks like a duck and talks like a duck....
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« Reply #12 on: November 19, 2003, 05:04:40 PM »
Its thanks to idiots that think it would be funny to wave it around in public. They give us minors a bad reputation. They piss everyone off, especially the older members of this board. As well as make it 1 step closer to banning airsoft in this state, possibly this country! I'm 15, and I have never shot anyone except for AT A GAME WHILE THE GAME WAS IN PLAY. I have never shot anyone in the staging area, at my house, etc. And will I get airsoft outlawed? Most likley not. But what about the kids who set up bunkers and use other cars for cover along their street? Its very possible! If 2 people were on my street, advancing car by garbage can by car, I would go out there and give them a peice of my mind! Why? Because its better than a peice of lead from a police officer or freaked packer!
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« Reply #13 on: November 19, 2003, 06:49:45 PM »
I was not saying that I was going to continue the sport, but i half live in Lake Arrowhead...so obviously it is not hard to continue the sport... so many trees and so much area keeps it hard to control people up there, yet I do know that they will be responsible about it. And you know that sometimes the dog can walk and talk like a duck, and i know that people can, they can even look like a duck in a costume, but that does not mean that they think like a duck, so judging a book by its cover is generally a bad idea, and makes some older people come off as unneeded jerks... i do admit that there are a lot of minors that ask stupid questions... but if you could just answer their question... since you really do not have to make life harder for us highschoolers, or teenagers, just in case you do not remember what it was like being a teenager ;-) although I do half agree with the police, the need to play the sport is just too much, hehe because I'm getting my first gun soon... thats all folks!
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« Reply #14 on: November 19, 2003, 11:46:40 PM »
What part of IT IS ILLEGAL do you not understand?  The law does not care if you are responsible.  It only cares that you are a minor who, by legal definition, CANNOT be held responsible for his or her actions.  Period.
I don't care if it barks or quacks.  If it's going to get airsoft banned by disregarding all statutes then I have a problem with it.  Yes, I remember perfectly well what it was like to be a teenager and I remember WAITING to drive, shoot, buy guns, etc.  It's why I appreciate what I have now.

Perhaps it is not your personal attitude, but it was you who expressed it, and that's why I responded to you as I did.  The idea that "minors will simply continue to do it" is exactly why juvy halls are always full and why future crime rates are expected to rise.  Be better than the crowd of disobedient punks for whom this is nothing more than a rush.  We, the adults in the sport, are the ones who have something to lose, and we love it.  Just follow the rules.  You have much, much more freedom with laws than you do without them.  Don't believe me?  Go run a red light during rush hour, and let me know how free your cell feels.  This is no different.  You are a minor.  Airsoft is not a sport intended for minors without the DIRECT supervision of a parent.  For my part, I freely admit to having tried many times to limit these boards to adults only.  The Forum owner, Paco, is a nicer guy than I am and feels that minors can gain a lot of good knowledge by being able to view the posts and perhaps ask a question or two.  So be it.  You, and all other minors must understand that this is a board full of adults, with families, careers, and a lot of years on you.  We don't like "Net-speak" or teen jargon or repeating the exact same info every single week.  I don't speak for everyone here, but this is a growing sentiment in the airsofting community.  If you want to learn things or check out pictures of the guns, etc., there's no harm in that, but when you play in open disregard for the will of the public and the CLEARLY implied intents of given laws, you're hurting your future chances of even having a sport to play when you are legally old enough to do so.
Pardon the book, but this is to all minors here and I've been away for a while...had some catching up to do.
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