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Offline MedicalDelta69

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What is wrong with minors?
« on: September 16, 2009, 10:00:00 PM »
Hello everybody,

My name is Rio and I'm fourteen years old. I want to tell all the adults on this page something about me. I have been playing airsoft since I was six when I got my first mini-electric gun for Christmas. I've played many times over the years and am very experienced with the pain and what else may occur. My question for you, is what is wrong with minors?

You haft to be 18+ to play. Im sorry kid. Your to young.

Thats Bull! Stop talking to us like babies that depend on milk from breasts. Teens can be as good as adults at skill and experience, maybe even better. Were not babies. I don't understand why when you go some where they always divide the age groups so that men play with men and boys play with even younger boys. It's not fair. Tell me why were so immature, tell me why we can defend ourselves, or play as good as you. I would like to know.

If you have an explanation please tell me,

Rio
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Re: What is wrong with minors?
« Reply #1 on: September 16, 2009, 10:32:16 PM »
To put it nicely

Legal liabilities.

This isnt the first time a minor has brought this up, it actually happens alot. Your best bet is getting to know the airsofters on here.

but take this friendly advice, dont push this too hard, it will backlash on you like it has on tons of others.
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Re: What is wrong with minors?
« Reply #2 on: September 17, 2009, 06:35:02 AM »
Rogue Fox pretty much summed it up for you.

Your best bet is making some new friends on here, and share your knowledge so that they can see that you're not just another annoying minor.

You'll soon find that there are more than enough events to participate in either openly listed, or not.
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Re: What is wrong with minors?
« Reply #3 on: September 17, 2009, 07:11:18 AM »
I only have a one word answer to your question........LAWYERS.......... :| Its not your fault, Its just the way It Is. You don't post like the usual 14 yr. old and this Is a good start, read and retain what Rogue Fox & I Slap Fat Kids posted and you'll go along way, give everyone a chance to know you. We know not all 14 year olds are the same, you took the first step. Show everyone at this forum your 14 going on 20 !! ;)
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Re: What is wrong with minors?
« Reply #4 on: September 17, 2009, 07:50:19 AM »
Hello,

I completely understand, and my argument wasn't about legal liabilities, it was about the separation between age groups. Why do teens haft to play with kids younger or hardly older? Why can't teens play with adults?
Maybe it is a legal liability.........

Rio
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Re: What is wrong with minors?
« Reply #5 on: September 17, 2009, 08:48:57 AM »
Quote from: "MedicalDelta69"
Hello,

...it was about the separation between age groups. Why do teens haft to play with kids younger or hardly older? Why can't teens play with adults?
Maybe it is a legal liability.........

It's both, in a sense.  One, because all it takes is for someone to make an accusation that an adult did something and the news/police/etc have a hay day, especially when airsoft guns are involved.  Two, because half the time adults don't really want to deal with a lot of the immaturity that is out there.  No offense to younger players, but you have to admit that is true.
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Re: What is wrong with minors?
« Reply #6 on: September 17, 2009, 09:32:55 AM »
Quote from: "MedicalDelta69"
Hello,

I completely understand, and my argument wasn't about legal liabilities, it was about the separation between age groups. Why do teens haft to play with kids younger or hardly older? Why can't teens play with adults?
Maybe it is a legal liability.........

Rio
1] "I completely understand, and my argument wasn't about legal liabilities" --But this Is exactly why there's the seperation you mentioned above...
 
 2] "Why can't teens play with adults?"-- Lets see, Hmmmm In a way you might understand, the same reason why I as an adult can't and won't take you to the local Bar, or porn shop, etc. ........[OK maybe porn was'nt a good example]  :shock:

 3] "Why can't teens play with adults?"-- Teens are allowed to play with adults,must be 18 and older. The age of consent, pre adult for lack of a better def. ask your mom or dad what the difference Is between 14 and the age of consent.

  If you keep hammering this subject here, you will light the fuse of forum hell for which there will be no return. We have all been there read that, and the tolerance for this constant repeated questioning, will only be tolerated for a short time. I've seen the results of pleading and appealing on this topic,  and nothing will change. Sorry but thats the cold hard truth....I am not a mod nor do I play one on TV, but If this continues I can see your future ,as I mentioned at the beginning of this paragraph... ](*,)
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Re: What is wrong with minors?
« Reply #7 on: September 17, 2009, 10:04:34 AM »
There are a number of venues where teens can play airsoft with adults.  Most of these are businesses which host games on private property.

Look for games posted by or hosted at:

Fort Adobe Airsoft
Fighter Town Paintball (airsoft is now hosted there)
Marauders Airsoft

All of these locations host events that welcome minors onto the field with a waiver.
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Re: What is wrong with minors?
« Reply #8 on: September 17, 2009, 10:39:50 AM »
MD, you might also want to consider the fact that it sounds like YOU don't want to play with the younger crowd. If there is no difference between players in various age groups, why aren't you content with playing with the 17 & under crowd?

Liability is the underlying factor for any of these age limitations, but you basically already admit that there is a difference in the quality of game-play between age groups or you wouldn't be lobbying to play with the older crowd. You could use the maturity argument for anything with age limits, driving, drinking, signing contracts...  Why are you not allowed to have a normal driver's license at the age of 15 or 15 1/2?  If you follow any kind of auto racing, (and I'm not a huge fan, but I'm friends with guys who are) you'll see that NASCAR will now let 14 year old drivers compete in some of their divisions. These same teens aren't able to get a license yet, even though they're handling cars with more power than anything they'll drive on a public road. It's all about liability. NASCAR can afford the (I imagine) extremely high insurance coverage for letting a minor on the track, and younger drivers don't start racing overnight.  

It seems like so many younger players ask the same question, and want someone to come out and say "We don't want to play with you cause you suck," or something to that effect. It's got nothing to do with that. You're the future of the sport; we want you to stay interested and involved. We would prefer to have you on a field with us rather than running around the local neighborhood park, getting in trouble with the law/neighbors, but it's not a possibility.

All good things are worth waiting for.  Cool your heels and take advantage of the games held by the organizations Mauraders Airsoft mentioned.
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Re: What is wrong with minors?
« Reply #9 on: September 17, 2009, 10:48:33 AM »
... to put it not so nicely....

notwithstanding the legal issues, and I hope this is simple enough that you can understand it ....

WE (adults) DON'T WANT TO PLAY AIRSOFT WITH CHILDREN !!!

And because we dont want to, we dont HAVE to.  Simple enough?  

No one cares how long you have played or how mature you are - nothing you say is going to change the way most of us feel about it.

So go wipe the sand out of your pussy and deal with it ....

Now STFU....
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Re: What is wrong with minors?
« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2009, 12:19:55 PM »
some adults don't mind playing with 14+. but your better bet is to join a team and sign their team waiver, which your parent will sign as well. being on a team is different than going to games by yourself alone. at least with a team you'll more than likely be able to get in because someone on that team is 21+ and can sponsor you for that event. So i would post something about looking for a team to join so you can play at more events.
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Re: What is wrong with minors?
« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2009, 02:15:35 PM »
Quote from: "Doc Hollywood"
... to put it not so nicely....

notwithstanding the legal issues, and I hope this is simple enough that you can understand it ....

WE (adults) DON'T WANT TO PLAY AIRSOFT WITH CHILDREN !!!

And because we dont want to, we dont HAVE to.  Simple enough?  

No one cares how long you have played or how mature you are - nothing you say is going to change the way most of us feel about it.

So go wipe the sand out of your pussy and deal with it ....

Now STFU....

I was waiting for you to chip in since he made the original post.  That was worth the wait, thank you.
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Re: What is wrong with minors?
« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2009, 03:20:58 PM »
A question for Dock hollywood,

What makes kids immature? could you answer this.
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Re: What is wrong with minors?
« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2009, 03:23:19 PM »
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A question for Dock hollywood,

What makes kids immature? could you answer this.


Dont bother with Doc, its just how he is.
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Re: What is wrong with minors?
« Reply #14 on: September 17, 2009, 03:44:53 PM »
it's nothing worse than waiting to get your license or a tatoo or legally drink- all of which are imposed by a law, there's no difference between this and that. so leave it, sure i could drive the hell out of a car when i was fourteen but.. i did what i could to get by just like everyone else.

if you're tired of playing with other minors then find a niche of notso-minors that you work well with make a team and practice and practice- and then go stomp all their asses and make an example of them. and trust me there are PLENTY of new underage kids in the sport, thats a lot of kids whining about being shot in the face!!  :D
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