alright i see what you're saying. magazine wise, are there midcaps available for the G&G?
Yes and no, there are the CA Midcaps, but to be honest I have never used them, and I have no idea how they feed in a G&G. Having said that the standard mags feed really well. Never had a misfeed in one of my G&G midcaps. I have nine of them (not sure if I said that before lol) and no misfeeds is impressive. Never lubricated them or cleaned them, just ran them as is.
This last saturday I took out a Laser Range Finder to find the actuall effective range of my Veteran... 80 yards and I could hit a man sized target 5/10 times with the wind blowing across the target (my team leader
) The LRF actually read like 82.6 Yards, but giving myself and the LRF the benifit of the doubt on it's +/-1 yard estimates 80 yards is easier to say. Not too shabby
That was using .25's with some considerable overhop so that they overhopped towards the end of the flight about 2 feet (ideal hop up). I've got some .28's on the way and I have a game the 14th that I'll double check the range and use .28's as well and see if I cant get any more out of it. The goal of this gun has always been to maximize range while minimizing FPS, and so far I'm VERY impressed with it's performance. I have a few things left to test, namely the .28's and a 6.01 TBB (however that would raise FPS, probably a decent amonut too ><)
To clarify on the internal differences between the Veteran and the base model, I recently aquired through my gearbox work, a G&G V4 M14, gearbox is stock, never been fired (guy bought it new to take the front end off). There is a pseudo bearing spring guide, all plastic, not metal like the Veterans, and it looks like a plastic version of the G&P spring guides, one big metal bushing rather than two metal bushings and a bearing plate. The piston is the "non reinforced" version (basically it has full piston rails as apposed to the split piston rails like the Systema Red pistons had) but is the same nylon material as the Veteran's. The Piston head is the G&G Weird piston head, the one that has like 6 ports but the ports are all spiral like (no better way to describe that unfortunately) where as the G&G Veterans has a "bore up" style. The cylinder head is your a-typical Nylon cylinder head, not metal like the G&G Veterans. Air nozzle appeared to be the same. The wiring is the same, the bearings the same, the motor is NOT the same. The veteran's motor is a torque motor, where as the regulars is a more balanced motor. On the 7.4v LiPo I use in my guns it provides a steady 16 RPS with an M120 spring, the veteran was around 14 RPS. The veteran has uber trigger response (read: Very little, shots are dang near instant) where as the standard takes a hair longer. The spring is obviously not the same, the one in the standard G&G gearbox is a 330 FPS spring (thats what it chronoed at at the op), where ast he Veteran's is an m130 of sorts.
Having said that, all the parts that matter in terms of compression and the quality of the gears is top notch. I stripped all the crappy grease out and used silicon oil in the compression chamber and automotive white lithium grease in the gears and swapped in an SP120 and she now shoots right at 400 FPS with good groupings. No range tests, I'll do that the 14th if I can remember to.
The Echo1 is definetly a rebranded KART. The CYMA is hands down the best TM clone. I'm not sure if the person above got a lemon or what, but the CYMA's I've seen are decently impressive. Decent enough I'd recommend it over the TM if someone was DIRELY set on getting the TM based M14. There is nothing wrong with the E1's, I just personally would not buy one. I'd put that money towards a base model G&G or the Veteran.
Sorry for the long wait between responses, I dont check this forum too often mainly because I'm not in AZ anymoer >< If you have any other questions PM Me if you post them here and I'll get back to you quicker.
