airsoft and the use of grenades

[D.RICH.1]

I'm not really sure what the problem is here... If you want to use grenades in the games you participate in where they are allowed by the game organizers, go ahead. If you are the game organizer and you want to allow people to carry and use grenades, go ahead. Feel free to do so. We can all pretty much do whatever we want...

no problem just talking about the pros and cons of airsoft grenades...anythought on either side u may have would be nice to know...

I suppose I'm pro airsoft grenades. I've used them before, and they have their place, but I don't consider them compulsory to the event.

nice...i dont either, i would just like to see em more excepted into games rather then be excluded...but once my team get a lil more astablished we will be hosting some events that will allow the asortment of gear the military would use...if u have it bring it, but as always there will be fps limints and such...

i mean i would love for any1 who has any kind of grenades to bring them out...claymores...nerf launchers and stuff...add some more confusion to the game...lol but ya i want to be fraged once or twice with a grenade but if there not allowed i cant get that experience either...thats all  :twisted:

[Black Fox]

Grenades are much more effective in a CQB environment but they do come in handy out doors every now and then.

There is a new airsoft grenade that came out recently.  It's called "Thunder B".  It doesn't spray any BBs.  It just makes a loud bang like a stun grenade and the price is relatively cheap compared to some other airsoft grenades.  Just google Thunder B airsoft grenades.  There are quite a few videos on You Tube too.

[D.RICH.1]

Grenades are much more effective in a CQB environment but they do come in handy out doors every now and then.

There is a new airsoft grenade that came out recently.  It's called "Thunder B".  It doesn't spray any BBs.  It just makes a loud bang like a stun grenade and the price is relatively cheap compared to some other airsoft grenades.  Just google Thunder B airsoft grenades.  There are quite a few videos on You Tube too.

those are the ones i have and want to have more exceptance with...they are cheaper and parts arent easily lost...

[Black Fox]

Sweet!

I've been thinking of getting some myself.  Are they as loud as they say they are?

[axisofoil]

Grenades are much more effective in a CQB environment but they do come in handy out doors every now and then.

There is a new airsoft grenade that came out recently.  It's called "Thunder B".  It doesn't spray any BBs.  It just makes a loud bang like a stun grenade and the price is relatively cheap compared to some other airsoft grenades.  Just google Thunder B airsoft grenades.  There are quite a few videos on You Tube too.

those are the ones i have and want to have more exceptance with...they are cheaper and parts arent easily lost...

A. Acceptance. Exceptance is not a word.

B. Those grenades have a potential to cause permanent hearing loss if you happen to toss it near someone who is say... in a prone position, especially at high altitudes or on hot days when the pressure waves propagate with a much larger amplitude.

[D.RICH.1]

Grenades are much more effective in a CQB environment but they do come in handy out doors every now and then.

There is a new airsoft grenade that came out recently.  It's called "Thunder B".  It doesn't spray any BBs.  It just makes a loud bang like a stun grenade and the price is relatively cheap compared to some other airsoft grenades.  Just google Thunder B airsoft grenades.  There are quite a few videos on You Tube too.

those are the ones i have and want to have more exceptance with...they are cheaper and parts arent easily lost...

A. Acceptance. Exceptance is not a word.

B. Those grenades have a potential to cause permanent hearing loss if you happen to toss it near someone who is say... in a prone position, especially at high altitudes or on hot days when the pressure waves propagate with a much larger amplitude.

ya my spelling sucks...im a car guy not a english major...lol...but thanks for pointing it out...i havent been in school for a long while...i dropped out after 9-11 to join the army...so my spelling sucks... and thats the only way i will learn if some1 points these things out...my knowledge is in science...mainly cosmology and some physics and astrophysics...where its more math than spelling...

as for the grenades ya they are pretty loud....i wouldnt go as far as to say permanent hearing damage...i threw one about five feet away...made my ears ring a lil but nothing more that shooting a .22 with out ear plugs... [smilie=armata_pdt_06.gif]

[axisofoil]

as for the grenades ya they are pretty loud....i wouldnt go as far as to say permanent hearing damage...i threw one about five feet away...made my ears ring a lil but nothing more that shooting a .22 with out ear plugs... [smilie=armata_pdt_06.gif]

5 ft away, and 5-6feet up (it's on the ground and you were standing up, I assume) = 7 and some change feet away = .22 without earplugs. I don't doubt that.

3 feet off while prone would more than quadruple the effect. 1 ft off while prone more than quadruples the effect again (it's possible that you make a long throw and it lands right next to someone that's laying down right as it goes off) and your hearing could be impaired for the rest of your life.

Increase the effect by say... coming up to one of our games in Prescott, or using it during the summer, and the sound level is increased, and likelihood of hearing damage also increases.
I'm not saying "OMG you're going to make everybody deaf if you use one of those, no matter what every time!" or anything. Just know that you need to be extremely careful because the chance for permanent injury is there. I'd hate to be the guy that reduced someone else's hearing, or had my ears messed up more than they are.

I try to not be a dick about grammar and spelling... usually... but repeating the same word when it is incorrect drives me bonkers, and makes me turn into a meanie head. lol.

[D.RICH.1]

I try to not be a dick about grammar and spelling... usually... but repeating the same word when it is incorrect drives me bonkers, and makes me turn into a meanie head. lol.

nah its cool man the only way ill learn....

[Black Fox]

At least he didn't put it in bold

[TheBoy988]

... and makes me turn into a meanie head. lol.

HAHA. Meanie head. Good times.

In any case, i wouldn't want one of them going off by my face. It might hurt just a bit.

[BeachsideCorpse]

I don't want anything that's made to explode going off anywhere near my head, whether it's a replica or the real thing is a moot point.

When you try to simulate killing people, it's difficult to keep the realism going when you're trying to prevent exactly what you're imitating.

[axisofoil]

At least he didn't put it in bold

Ah, yes. I do usually bold, italicize, underline, etc. I generally reserve that for people that use abhorrently incorrect grammar and spelling within a post criticizing someone else's grammar or spelling.

[Black Fox]

I don't want anything that's made to explode going off anywhere near my head, whether it's a replica or the real thing is a moot point.

When you try to simulate killing people, it's difficult to keep the realism going when you're trying to prevent exactly what you're imitating.

I'm not understanding what you are afraid of.  If a CO2 grenade accidentally goes off at close range or someone accidentally shoots you at point blank.  To me the risk are the same.

One thing we do when using devices like this we yell "grenade" so that someone isn't totally surprised and gets nailed at close range.

Personally I like it when something goes boom!  It adds to the over all experience.  Our group uses machine gun and artillery sim-fire all the time.  If you really want to crank it up a notch, get one of these.
http://www.counterterrorism.com/Blast%20Simulator.htm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qrwz7ELyvOc
Not only does it go BOOM!  You feel the concussion too [smilie=armata_pdt_22.gif]

[Marauders Airsoft]

MTT has introduced the use of the Thunder B grenades for some of our training programs.  Our staff has witnessed a few of these grenades "explode" in the hands of trainees who tried to cook them off as the delays can be unpredictable.  

When interviewed about the effect of the explosion in their hand, all reported that aside from being scared sh*tle$$, they had not suffered any physical injury to their hand.  They did note that the blast was quite loud but the trainee did not relate any ringing of the ears.  
It may be possible that these individuals did suffer some minor hearing damage, but our staff had no way of verifying this at the time.

[AgentP]

The only grenades that should be allowed are ones that actually go off (including CO2 with no bb's). Dummy grenades are retarded as the person they are intended to "kill" may not even see/hear it, and the distances of the killzone could be easily argued. We already have enough descrepincies in the game as it is, there's no need to add another layer to mix.

Even with the flaws their use adds a realistic element to the game which makes it a lot more exciting!