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Possible new field!
« on: May 26, 2010, 06:10:06 PM »
Hey everyone, just wondering my team is in the works of getting some land 5 acres to be exact out just south of maricopa and was wondering if there would be anyone who would be willing to come play out there. It will be privatly owned so no trouble from cops. Its just in the works right now but please give us some feedback to see how many ppl would go out there.
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Re: Possible new field!
« Reply #1 on: May 26, 2010, 07:41:10 PM »
legal issues/property rights pending, i would be interested. that's not too far from me
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Re: Possible new field!
« Reply #2 on: May 26, 2010, 08:49:59 PM »
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legal issues/property rights pending, i would be interested. that's not too far from me

Same i would be granted all things are set
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Re: Possible new field!
« Reply #3 on: May 26, 2010, 09:47:05 PM »
ya you need to be careful. just because its privet property doesn't mean you can airsoft. if there is a city code that says no airsoft than thats final privet property or not. there is a big mess with a few fields up here in the west Vally with legal issues and investigations because of either state trust land violations or city code violations.
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Re: Possible new field!
« Reply #4 on: May 27, 2010, 05:53:47 AM »
If that's the case then we could not airsoft anywhere cause its either private property or state land as for a mess the fields in the west valley still play with no problems and very little interference from local authorites (worse case they simply ask what we doing and when they find out they just leave)
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Re: Possible new field!
« Reply #5 on: May 27, 2010, 11:26:04 AM »
you didnt read it it says you have to comply with city codes if there is no city codes saying you cant then its ok to airsoft
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Re: Possible new field!
« Reply #6 on: May 27, 2010, 12:36:34 PM »
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you didnt read it it says you have to comply with city codes if there is no city codes saying you cant then its ok to airsoft

 I always hear this but i have yet to see any proof of a city code prohibiting the discharge of an Airsoft/Pellet/paintball gun. Please post it here so everyone can read it as well as the link to where you found it
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Re: Possible new field!
« Reply #7 on: May 27, 2010, 01:54:36 PM »
guys, lets not turn this thread into a legal debate


and lets not forget that the city code in maricopa differs from that of the city codes in the west valley.. like i said, i would be interested in playing in the east valley


hell, i would even put some time and labor in to get the field constructed and adequate for airsoft use
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Re: Possible new field!
« Reply #8 on: May 27, 2010, 08:08:40 PM »
hey guys i appreciate the feedback so far but don't worry about the legal stuff, we're obviously going to look into that. that's why the post says possible new field, right now we're just looking more for how much interest there would be in this location and maybe somethings you'd like to see at this field. thx
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Re: Possible new field!
« Reply #9 on: May 27, 2010, 10:39:39 PM »
really now! the whole damn thing is a catch 22 !  if you dont notice that after hearing this speach the first time than you must be a thick headed commie!!!  :evil:
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Re: Possible new field!
« Reply #10 on: May 28, 2010, 01:36:15 AM »
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really now! the whole damn thing is a catch 22 !  if you dont notice that after hearing this speach the first time than you must be a thick headed commie!!!  :evil:


uhm, what?
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Re: Possible new field!
« Reply #11 on: May 28, 2010, 04:24:21 AM »
Not trying to get into a legal debate, but.. Pick asked, and apparently won't search on his own.

Quote from: "[url=http://library6.municode.com:80/default-test/template.htm?view=browse&doc_action=setdoc&doc_keytype=tocid&doc_key=4f65945bbe0f3e52185fe59e3ff72821&infobase=10158
City of Chandler Code, Part 3 Chapter 11 Section 6[/url]"]
A. It shall be unlawful within the City limits for any person to display any air gun, gas operated gun, spring gun or any toy or weapon that is a replica or close in appearance to a firearm in such a manner that a reasonable person would feel threatened by such display.
B. It shall be unlawful within the City limits to discharge any air gun, "B-B" gun, gas-operated gun or spring gun or any instrument, toy or weapon commonly known as a "peashooter," "slingshot" or "beany" or any other instrument, including but not limited to bows and arrows, made for the purpose of throwing or projecting missiles of any kind by any means whatsoever, whether such instrument is called by any name set forth above or by any other name.
C. The prohibitions of this section shall not apply on private grounds or premises when, under the circumstances, such instrument can be fired, discharged or operated in such a manner as not to endanger or be likely to endanger any persons or property and also in such manner as to prevent the projectile from traversing any grounds or space outside the perimeter limits of such grounds or premises. There shall be a further exception when public or private grounds or premises are utilized for the purpose of an organized meet or shooting match involving the use of such weapons and when such meet or shooting match has been authorized by the owner or controller of such premises and written permission for same obtained from the Chief of Police.
D. Any person violating the provisions of this section shall be guilty of a misdemeanor and punishable in accordance with Chapter 1 of this Code
(Ord. No. 343, § 1; Ord. No. 2988, § 3, 6-24-99; Ord. No. 3687, 6-9-05)

There you go.  It prohibits the discharge of an airgun inside city limits.  Just don't forget the exceptions that more or less make airsofting in a safe and intelligent manner on private property legal. :)
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Re: Possible new field!
« Reply #12 on: May 28, 2010, 09:06:47 AM »
ARTICLE IV.  OFFENSES INVOLVING PUBLIC SAFETY

Sec. 34-73.  Restrictions on discharge, concealment and handling.
It is unlawful for any person within the limits of the city to fire or discharge:
(a)   Any firearm, BB gun, air gun, pellet gun, dart gun, slingshot, gas-operated gun, cross bow, blow gun, or other similar gun or instrument; or
(b)   Any arrow from a bow unless:
(1)   The discharge occurs on private property, with the consent of the owner, from a location no less than 125 feet from any property line, by an individual or under the supervision of an individual who is 18 years of age or older; or
(2)   The discharge is done by a government agent in furtherance of his or her official duties; or
(3)   The discharge is done pursuant to Title 13, Chapter 4, Arizona Revised Statute; or
(4)   The discharge occurs on non-residential property as part of a properly supervised range. Properly supervised range means any non-residential location operated by or immediately supervised by a governmental agency, public or private school, or an adult who is a member of a company, group, or affiliated with a recognized archery shooting organization.
(Code 2007, § 9.32.010; Ord. No. 08-43, § 1, 10-9-08; Ord. No. 08-54, § 1, 12-11-08)
Secs. 34-74--34-104.  Reserved.


this is the one i found i think someone posted this about a ru game once
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Re: Possible new field!
« Reply #13 on: May 28, 2010, 10:21:14 AM »
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(1)   The discharge occurs on private property, with the consent of the owner, from a location no less than 125 feet from any property line, by an individual or under the supervision of an individual who is 18 years of age or older

Point Proven it is private Property therefore this law says it ok

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The prohibitions of this section shall not apply on private grounds or premises when, under the circumstances, such instrument can be fired, discharged or operated in such a manner as not to endanger or be likely to endanger any persons or property and also in such manner as to prevent the projectile from traversing any grounds or space outside the perimeter limits of such grounds or premises. There shall be a further exception when public or private grounds or premises are utilized for the purpose of an organized meet or shooting match involving the use of such weapons and when such meet or shooting match has been authorized by the owner or controller of such premises and written permission

Yeah most cities are that way it prohibits airsofting but allows for play on private propery
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Re: Possible new field!
« Reply #14 on: May 28, 2010, 01:16:11 PM »
that means there has to be prof of consent ie a notarized note or the owner needs to be present. because any yahoo can lie
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