I rather not argue about this and fill up this topic with junk. Black has worked perfectly fine with me. The only time I've been spotted is when a guy popped up 10ft behind me. I also mix it with ACU (vest, pads, hemet, pants.) if I didn't state that before. My top, mask, gloves, rut sack, and just about everything else is all black. I used to go with complete black, but I joined a team which has a camo requirement.