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Operation: Safe Haven, A US border patrol themed event, Poll
« on: January 24, 2011, 06:41:00 PM »
Hello fellow airsofters. I am bumping a new idea for playtesting a new operation I have been putting together. This op has been a long time in the planning and making, and I wished for a bit of feedback in several areas before I went ahead as planned and finalized this event:

Operation: Safe Haven would be a diverse new op that would introduce players to many different and exciting playstyles, all while retaining the standard rulesets we all know and enjoy.

Not to give too much away, but I had planned on the use and introduction of three forces:

The US Border Patrol: Well equipped, but fewer in numbers

The Mexican Armed Forces: decently equipped, with few numbers

And the Civilian/Cartel Forces: Extremely poorly equipped to unarmed, but able to have almost limitless manpower and resources.

And all of this would revolve around a line, or "border" that had been placed on the playing field via maps, which would be distributed to the participants.

Again, not to give too much away, but, the game would have a very simple yet fun set of objectives, basically Neither the US Or Mexican Armed forces would be allowed to cross the border, legally, however, they can engage each other if one should happen to stray across, the Mexican forces can attack/raid/assault across the line, but would ultimately suffer some consequence, or perhaps only in small numbers? *Still planning here.   Likewise the US forces can counter/arrest/defend on and across the line as well, with the same penalties for engaging the opposite sides forces on the wrong side of the line.

While all this is going on, a hoard of (lol <20 unless theres a ton of interest) civilians and cartel members would attempt to sneak there way to a designated point across the line,

Civilians would be limited to very little arms, would prefer unarmed sneakers, but I don't know if anyone would do that. They would have to sneak from the end of the mexico side to a road/tunnel/ect point, within the us side. When they are caught, they would have to return to there spawn on the mexico side, and try again, (IE Deported)

Cartel would be responsible for sneaking larges amounts of "cargo" to a point inside the US

I was thinking cartel would have to drop there cargo, at one sides safe point, exchange it for money, and then sneak back, but idk yet. Cartel would be limited to shotguns and pistols.

Both civilians and Cartel can use money as bribes, but more on that to come.


Winner would be any illegals that made it through, and the side that has the most $$ or points, haven't decided yet.

Would anyone be game? Suggestions and comments welcome!
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Re: Operation: Safe Haven, A US border patrol themed event,
« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2011, 06:57:05 PM »
I'd be down for something like this. Did you have an idea on the whereabouts of this possible event?
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Re: Operation: Safe Haven, A US border patrol themed event,
« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2011, 07:23:49 PM »
Quote from: "hdrox88"
I'd be down for something like this. Did you have an idea on the whereabouts of this possible event?
Not 100% as I wish it to accommodate both Tucson and Phoenix players. Choosing between Four Peaks, Sasco, and Silverbell depending on the number of signups.
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Re: Operation: Safe Haven, A US border patrol themed event,
« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2011, 07:26:46 PM »
Infidels are interested.
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Re: Operation: Safe Haven, A US border patrol themed event,
« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2011, 07:44:36 PM »
If I could make a suggestion:  Don't play on the idea of making this a US/Mexico border.  Make up two names for the countries and go from there.  I am not here to start a political rant, nor am I interesting in reacting to one -- I'm just suggesting this so that your thread doesn't get stepped on by the first person that gets offended and then the multiple people that will react in an unfiltered manner.

Besides the above, your plan sounds like it would attract enough players for the fortified teams, although I'm not sure how many would be willing to go unarmed.  Those roles would probably have to be played by a group of people you designate and whom are willing to not use all their toys during a game of airball.

Good luck.
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Re: Operation: Safe Haven, A US border patrol themed event,
« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2011, 07:52:25 PM »
Quote from: "Schwer_Punkt_91"
If I could make a suggestion:  Don't play on the idea of making this a US/Mexico border.  Make up two names for the countries and go from there.  I am not here to start a political rant, nor am I interesting in reacting to one -- I'm just suggesting this so that your thread doesn't get stepped on by the first person that gets offended and then the multiple people that will react in an unfiltered manner.

Besides the above, your plan sounds like it would attract enough players for the fortified teams, although I'm not sure how many would be willing to go unarmed.  Those roles would probably have to be played by a group of people you designate and whom are willing to not use all their toys during a game of airball.

Good luck.
I was wondering about this, I will take it into consideration. I see the tension point, but I also believe that it is the real life interpretation that will make this game more successful, the game will not judge any real world events, and the participants would all act honorably to obtain there own "safe haven" however they perceive it.

Anyone who feels either way on this topic, please feel free to comment. Keep it civilized, And try to keep the majority of suggestions related to the game. Thanks!

Ya, the civilians are tough, I am considering other benefits for them to help, was going to look at making them into only 4-5 separate individuals, rather then a solid group. They are a necessity though.
 
Also, to all who are interested, if you would, please put down where you would be likely to attend such an event, and if its location in a particular area would negatively effect your participation. IE Tucson, or Phoenix AO.
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Re: Operation: Safe Haven, A US border patrol themed event,
« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2011, 07:56:22 PM »
I am in Surprise, so I'd have to go with the phx favored venues of course. I have been out to four peaks and liked it there. I have not been to sasco yet and that looks like a great place as well. I would be willing to make the trek down to sasco depending on the game attendance.
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Re: Operation: Safe Haven, A US border patrol themed event,
« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2011, 08:15:11 PM »
somebody please translate!!

para que los civiles no se sientan mal por no usar armas o solo muy pocas que tal que los civiles puedan usar escudos echos de cajas de carton o de charolas para cocinar el pavo !!!

asi ellos pueden avansar mas dintancias sin sentirse  mal por que los atrapen con 3 disparon....

y echos de esos materiales los escudos solo sirven por un tiempo asi les das tiempo de correr  y ocultarse o  ya  seria cosa de ellos aser estrategias.

yo estube en un juego paresido en florida y creeme que fue muy desepcionante  , despues de correr  una gran distancia  y te disparan  1 vez y tener que caminar todo hacia atras otravez !!!!  eso si molesta.

no importa si es mexico, Japon, USA , IRAK , o donde sea creo que somos adultos y buenos jugadores  (buenos deportistas)  ,  solamente que no pongan nada mas a los gueritos como del lado  de USA.

 1 pregunta  , civiles o /mafia pueden usar explosivos???  (de mentiras claro)  como kamikases?


PS:  sorry guys  but its too much for me to write in english.   [smilie=armata_pdt_12.gif]
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Re: Operation: Safe Haven, A US border patrol themed event,
« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2011, 08:21:12 PM »
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somebody please translate!!

para que los civiles no se sientan mal por no usar armas o solo muy pocas que tal que los civiles puedan usar escudos echos de cajas de carton o de charolas para cocinar el pavo !!!

asi ellos pueden avansar mas dintancias sin sentirse  mal por que los atrapen con 3 disparon....

y echos de esos materiales los escudos solo sirven por un tiempo asi les das tiempo de correr  y ocultarse o  ya  seria cosa de ellos aser estrategias.

yo estube en un juego paresido en florida y creeme que fue muy desepcionante  , despues de correr  una gran distancia  y te disparan  1 vez y tener que caminar todo hacia atras otravez !!!!  eso si molesta.

es cuestion si es mexico, Japon, USA , IRAK , o donde sea creo que somos adultos y buenos jugadores  (buenos deportistas)  ,  solamente que no pongan nada mas a los gueritos como del lado  de USA.

 1 pregunta  , civiles o /mafia pueden usar explosivos???  (de mentiras claro)  como kamikases?


PS:  sorry guys  but its too much for me to write in english.   [smilie=armata_pdt_12.gif]
=D>  As a 14 year study and a holder of a minor in Spanish, I sir, applaud your response.

I agree we are all mature adults, hopefully others feel the same way. As for the shields and such, its an interesting thought, however, I feel the civilians will have a fair chance due to the limited number of the Border patrol, and the distractions presented to them, also, civilians can hook up with cartel or MAF for protection/service/bribes ect.

As for the walking, I have either planned it so the civs don't have to walk very far, or that they can have have safe houses/checkpoints.
I was also considering the possibility of making them immune to bullets, and having to be found, rather than shot. But I am not 100% on that.
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Re: Operation: Safe Haven, A US border patrol themed event,
« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2011, 08:23:21 PM »
hahahhaha  thaks but its hard to do it in this crapy virtual kboard in the ipod thouch .  but thanks  !!!
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« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2011, 08:30:07 PM »
ok bro I hope  my ideas can help your game!!   [smilie=armata_pdt_18.gif]
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Re: Operation: Safe Haven, A US border patrol themed event,
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2011, 08:54:19 PM »
Back in 2005 I was in a Black Cat paintball Scenario game called Operation Southern Sword; we had about 150 players at SC Village, it was more 'militant' - more like a Harold Coyle techno-combat thriller, Cartels vs. Marines trying to lock down the Border, but there was lots of roleplaying and sub-plots. It was a blast, I fought alongside my jeffe day and night (allied with the Psycho-Clown Posse) in my first major game with a new A-5 ... those were the days !  I cherish the sombrero my team mates gave me.
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Re: Operation: Safe Haven, A US border patrol themed event,
« Reply #12 on: January 25, 2011, 12:36:14 AM »
I agree that the team names should be changed however for the actual Spanish speaking gente out there that would mix things up. Possibly having the border patrol listen in on radio chatter to get some heads up but that's just a thought of mine. The only problem I would have is signing up as civilian would indeed suck because I would not want to play the same role all game long, however if the roles were switched mid game or every round that would make things a little exciting. I would be interested in attending though.
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Re: Operation: Safe Haven, A US border patrol themed event,
« Reply #13 on: January 25, 2011, 06:23:45 AM »
Just an opinion but I would keep it as far NORTH as you can!!! If we post warnings to players at SASCO to be on their guard for just such real world events, the LAST thing we need to do is all dress the part and look like we are doing the same thing. (IE Sneeking in people or "CARGO") If we are watching out in that area I am sure a few REAL border patrol (or wanna be's) are watching as well. It's all fun and games till someone gets shot for real.

Not saying it would happen just that it could happen. Lets not all get on the 6 o'clock news for this one...The general public might not take it as a fun game like we do.

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Re: Operation: Safe Haven, A US border patrol themed event,
« Reply #14 on: January 25, 2011, 01:42:07 PM »
just an fyi to people out there who think cartel/coyotes are poorly equiped that aint true they are extremely well equiped to be what they are and do what they do simply put terrorists(aka someone who causes terror. ts). They are just poorly trained they may not be able to shoot a target 500-1000 yards down range but they dont need too. Think situational awarness and you will realize these people are extremely well equipt and ready to rock which is what makes them so dangerous and hard to find and engage.
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