Snipers

[gfiller]

what is the best sniper rifle that there is?

[DesertEagleLover]

There really isn't one...

[Revolution Airsoft]

Also, this should probably be under the spring gun section

[dasshiz]

Also, this should probably be under the spring gun section

There are electric, gas, and spring "snipers" though...

[SpiritOfSimo]

The best sniper rifle is whichever one is in my hands at the time of use (/sarcasm). As the famous quote goes: "It's not important *what* you drive, so much as *how* you drive it." However, for the sake of educating:

The two most popular and well understood airsoft sniper weapon systems are the Maruzen Type 96 (and its clones), and the M700 (mostly VSR10 and BAR10). They are both manually operated, bolt action "springers" (we call them boltys). Gas and electric SWS's aren't as consistent as boltys.

-The VSR/BAR10 is lighter in weight, so it will fatigue the user less than the noticeably heavier L96.
-The VSR/BAR10's hop up unit is much easier to adjust on the fly
-The VSR/BAR10 hop up unit and bucking are superior to the L96 in terms of consistency.
-The VSR/BAR10 usually has upgrade parts in *slightly* higher stock / quantity from retailers around the globe.
-Magazines for the VSR/BAR10 hold 30 rounds and are smaller and lighter, whereas the L96 mags hold less, approx 22, and are larger and heavier due to the spring ejection mechanism that makes for easier removal of the magazine.


-The Type 96's additional mass helps stabilize errant twitches when pulling the trigger on a long range shot
-The Type 96's pistol grip makes it easier to keep the rifle steady when pulling the trigger (as opposed to the conventional rifle-styled stock of the VSR/BAR10)
-The Type 96 has empty magazine and cocking indicators
-The Type 96 magazine has direct feed lips that support the bbs' all the way into the chamber, meaning you won't lose 2 to 4 bbs every time you pull the magazine out to check ammo or to do a tactical reload.


The bottom line: pick what works best for you. But if you're looking for empirical data and actual experiences:

I personally own a Type 96 with PDI upgrades, and I love it. Here are the components and stats:

PDI 6.01x495mm precision inner barrel (made of SUS304)
PDI hop up chamber with custom Kydex shims
SCS hop up spacer
Systema AEG bucking
PDI Precision cylinder (made of SUS304)
PDI HD piston and spring guide
PDI APS2 220% spring
Perfect compression in the cylinder, and perfect air seal at the bucking.
In addition, I have numerous DIY custom mods.

Accuracy: best benchrest grouping was a 2.75 inch 3-shot group at ~100 feet, with bioval .27 gram bbs (clear)

Range: Longest range hit was approx 320 feet, max effective range (7/10 hits) 265 feet

FPS:
Average: 460.26 (with white .3 gram bioval bbs) with a 95% confidence interval of 459.602 to 460.931
Std dev: 1.77
range: 7 (max fps - min fps)

[Exarach]

Or you could spend the real money and buy an AEG "Sniper", all I use. SVD, SL8, SR25, The SR25 and the SVD both have elongated gearboxes, which mean they can use longer barrels without suffering in performance, the Both the SVD and the SR25 have come down in price lately, right to around $200

These guns are easy to upgrade, and being semi only, give great performance.

As an example:
My CA Dragunov is shooting 550fps currently, I have pushed it to a little over 600, but it didn't do me much good, and it was just hitting people too hard.

On a day with favorable winds, I can land shots up to 230+ft accurately, longest hit ever in a game was probably 260-275, (If I bought a better brand barrel, I could push this.)

And if your REALLY into teching, there are ways of messing with the hop to achieve 350-400ft shots on good days.

The best thing about it is that I routinely clean springer snipers off the map. Due to wind and pellet weight factors, it is very difficult to have any kind of certainty about where the pellet is going. You can aim to the best of your abilities, have everything going your way, then fire, and lose your shot to a random gust of wind.

 If proper MED's are maintained, there is a good chance it will take 2-3 shots to nail your target, with a bolt action rifle, you must cock the gun every shot, meaning you lose the sight picture, time, and breathing control when you have to chamber another round.

This means you must re-locate, then re-acquire your target, and if your a good planner, he isn't ducked into cover by now, and you must start the process all over again.

Not gonna lie, by this time, any decent AEG BASR could probably have ripped off 5-6 shots. This usually cleans the other guys house.
Even if it takes a few seconds to locate where the shot came from.

Snipers that take shots at me and miss usually don't get a follow up shot.

Spring snipers are great beginner platforms, because they can be had for <$100, and can be upgraded as you go, they are fun to look at, and fun to shoot.

However, I would advise you to save up another $50, and buy an A&K SR25 or a nice M16 platform, and drop some upgrades into it.

Don't worry about hiding prone for 3 hours in a bush lining up your shots from perfect concealment, it really doesn't work like the movies in airsoft.

Moving, engaging, hitting and moving again with an AEG rifle is much more team friendly and useful.

Choose wisely.

[deathbydanish]

Or you could spend the real money and buy an AEG "Sniper", all I use. SVD, SL8, SR25, The SR25 and the SVD both have elongated gearboxes, which mean they can use longer barrels without suffering in performance, the Both the SVD and the SR25 have come down in price lately, right to around $200

These guns are easy to upgrade, and being semi only, give great performance.

As an example:
My CA Dragunov is shooting 550fps currently, I have pushed it to a little over 600, but it didn't do me much good, and it was just hitting people too hard.

On a day with favorable winds, I can land shots up to 230+ft accurately, longest hit ever in a game was probably 260-275, (If I bought a better brand barrel, I could push this.)

And if your REALLY into teching, there are ways of messing with the hop to achieve 350-400ft shots on good days.

The best thing about it is that I routinely clean springer snipers off the map. Due to wind and pellet weight factors, it is very difficult to have any kind of certainty about where the pellet is going. You can aim to the best of your abilities, have everything going your way, then fire, and lose your shot to a random gust of wind.

 If proper MED's are maintained, there is a good chance it will take 2-3 shots to nail your target, with a bolt action rifle, you must cock the gun every shot, meaning you lose the sight picture, time, and breathing control when you have to chamber another round.

This means you must re-locate, then re-acquire your target, and if your a good planner, he isn't ducked into cover by now, and you must start the process all over again.

Not gonna lie, by this time, any decent AEG BASR could probably have ripped off 5-6 shots. This usually cleans the other guys house.
Even if it takes a few seconds to locate where the shot came from.

Snipers that take shots at me and miss usually don't get a follow up shot.

Spring snipers are great beginner platforms, because they can be had for <$100, and can be upgraded as you go, they are fun to look at, and fun to shoot.

However, I would advise you to save up another $50, and buy an A&K SR25 or a nice M16 platform, and drop some upgrades into it.

Don't worry about hiding prone for 3 hours in a bush lining up your shots from perfect concealment, it really doesn't work like the movies in airsoft.

Moving, engaging, hitting and moving again with an AEG rifle is much more team friendly and useful.

Choose wisely.

As informative as your post was, I have feeling that its meaning will have flown over the heads of its intended audience, to tune of say mach 4+ :p

This is another myth or urban legend that I feel that we must rid the airsoft community of, that being a "sniper" in airsoft is the same as being one whatever FPS game is popular at the moment. If your intention is to stand off and engage a target at maximum range without fear of return fire, then you had better adjust your expectations. I've really only seen a handful of players on this board pull off the sniper role really well, and that only came with a lot of hard work and dedication beyond that of a weekend warrior. What you should really do is learn fire and manuever, its much more useful and will be applicable in just about every game you go to. The point is, don't even bother trying to be a sniper in airsoft if you are going to half ass it, you'll just waste your time and money, while developing a bad case of swamp ass because you thought dressing up like a wookie would help make you invisible on the field.

[SpiritOfSimo]

^Also a valid argument. The range benefit of a bolty over an AEG is not nearly as substantial as if you were comparing a RS carbine against a scout rifle chambered in the same cartridge.

This is another myth or urban legend that I feel that we must rid the airsoft community of, that being a "sniper" in airsoft is the same as being one whatever FPS game is popular at the moment. If your intention is to stand off and engage a target at maximum range without fear of return fire, then you had better adjust your expectations. I've really only seen a handful of players on this board pull off the sniper role really well, and that only came with a lot of hard work and dedication beyond that of a weekend warrior.

So true. But I love hitting those wannabe COD snipers with a 6mm, .3 gram dose of reality.

You also have to consider the play field. Here in AZ, the desert is very flat and easily traversed. A range advantage of 100 feet is easily closed by AEG users. But in the forests, where the terrain is un level and concealment is MUCH more dense, a 50 foot range advantage is more advantageous than the 100 in the desert.

The best thing about it is that I routinely clean springer snipers off the map.

I cannot lie, I've had my ass handed to me by plenty of AEG'rs who were able to spray back. If you want to win, you have to take every advantage you can. There is no shame in that.


As a personal annotation, I enjoy the 1 shot bolty greatly. I feel like my ghillie suit deserves to have it's visual camouflage complemented with the silence of a BASR. I'd rather get 1 good hit with my L96 than 5 or 10 with an AEG, but that's just my own feelings. To each his own.

Moving, engaging, hitting and moving again with an AEG rifle is much more team friendly and useful.
Choose wisely.

Spot on. I'm actually looking to get an AEG DMR (don't tell that to my BASR).

[Mooncruiser]

I've been told there's a kit out there that turns a spring SVD into a Co2 shooter. Any pros/con and info where to get the kit?

[Exarach]

I've been told there's a kit out there that turns a spring SVD into a Co2 shooter. Any pros/con and info where to get the kit?

Ehobby. Its cheap, but not really worth the $, I heard unreliable and hard to refill.
G&P is the only true GBB SVD, and that thing is the worst gun G&P has ever made :6

[SLINKEY]

or you can pay me to build you an m14.

I can make them accurate up to 90 yards, And up to 650 fps (semi auto only)

trust me on that one, Beanzors, fuggers, mine and the 25 other ones i'v build.. are the scaryest guns on the field.. So bad people bitch and complain about not being able to shoot us cuz were 100 yards away.
There extreamly reliable also

azAirsoftInnvations.com

[gfiller]

how much?

[SLINKEY]

i can build you a bad ass m14 for like 250

[ghost1216]

i can build you a bad ass m14 for like 250

ill keep in touch. what brand would be the best?

[gfiller]

i can build you a bad ass m14 for like 250

that sounds good, ill see wat i can do