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KWA M4 hop up *PLEASE HELP*
« on: February 02, 2012, 05:31:01 PM »
So just today i installed my new hop up and hop up bucking on my kwa m4, and the bb's still drop really fast, and i dont know why. can someone please help!!!

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Re: KWA M4 hop up *PLEASE HELP*
« Reply #1 on: February 02, 2012, 06:25:59 PM »
Your not getting a good seal. Check your piston o-ring you might need a new one if its not that. If not then it might be your nozzel. Just check all your seals

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Re: KWA M4 hop up *PLEASE HELP*
« Reply #2 on: February 02, 2012, 06:38:07 PM »
try your Nub. I can allmost guarantee that its eather too small, Or installed incorectly.  it could Also be this problem right here \|/

WHat type of hopup and bucking?

Because KWA is only compatible WITH KWA

I dont get kids here in this state,
"built to out perform" is Kwa's slogan.. huh get that. Must be fully upgraded out of the box? i have no idea.. i can see a barrel, Maby a piston because theres are garbage.. but why the hop and all of that.

theres a reason why KWA did that, SO your gun shoots like shit when you spend money on other brands. Thats a Sure way to know they will make Money, by making it so ONLY kwa parts will work in it properly.
Unless you have had someone go thru it and remove all of the Propriatary shit kwa put in there. Your not going to be able to get it to perform correctly.

Ask Red_devil i solved this Exact problem in his KWA too.



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Re: KWA M4 hop up *PLEASE HELP*
« Reply #3 on: February 02, 2012, 06:56:51 PM »
Yup,gotta use all kwa parts unless you redo everything.
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Re: KWA M4 hop up *PLEASE HELP*
« Reply #4 on: February 02, 2012, 07:02:09 PM »
I dont get kids here in this state,
"built to out perform" is Kwa's slogan.. huh get that. Must be fully upgraded out of the box? i have no idea.. i can see a barrel, Maby a piston because theres are garbage.. but why the hop and all of that.

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Re: KWA M4 hop up *PLEASE HELP*
« Reply #5 on: February 02, 2012, 07:13:25 PM »
It's a KWA hop and KWA hop up bucking
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Re: KWA M4 hop up *PLEASE HELP*
« Reply #6 on: February 02, 2012, 11:55:24 PM »

WHAT?
I have no idea! LOL ill try again

If you have a tech that knows what hes doing look at a kwa, he should be able to get 490 fps out of a 120 spring in a kwa.

Iv never had a single complaint with kwa. tell me one thing in a kwa that you dont see as an upgrade part for a china gun.
ball bearing bushings, ball bearing spring guide/piston head, and piston. Low resistance wiring harness. H Type hop nub, 6.04 barrel.
all of tho's installed in a china m4, would make it "custom" yes?  im not even going to start on the friggen externals. lol
thats a pretty solid build in my eyes. Yes it does need some attention to detail to perform like it should. after all it did come out of a factory slamming a shit ton out a day.

the only reason why i donnot own a KWA is because there too friggen easy and that's Dead Honest i hate KWA for that fact.
there the UTG L96 of AEG's when it comes to a easily upgradeable gun that can shoot so hot it will bury a bb in someones skin from 100 feet.


and to a responce to the thread. try checking your hop spacer (the small tubular peice), it could have shifted out of place on the hopup arm, Or it could even be too small. You can take a larger diameter piece of wire isolation cut to the right size and use that, Or try and get an actual nub.. they'll work pretty much the same
and whats your fps, the kwa 2gx seems to fail severely at around 300 fps, its a trick to get them to work at that low of fps
or try cleaning your barrel with a dry swab, you could have a bunch of excess grease or lube on the bucking
« Last Edit: February 03, 2012, 12:04:07 AM by SLINKEY »

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Re: KWA M4 hop up *PLEASE HELP*
« Reply #7 on: February 03, 2012, 06:49:55 AM »
It's shooting about 355 with a m90 spring in it.
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Re: KWA M4 hop up *PLEASE HELP*
« Reply #8 on: February 03, 2012, 03:00:26 PM »
Thinking i might have put the hop up in wrong I took it out and put it back together knowing it was right and the bb's still drop a lot.
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Re: KWA M4 hop up *PLEASE HELP*
« Reply #9 on: February 03, 2012, 03:15:47 PM »
Its either air seal, theres a crack in your hop up, the bucking is faulty, or you just need to retry putting the bucking onto the barrel and into the hopup as carefully as you can, again. Clean the barrel too. Troubleshoot everything.

If its something else besides the bucking, hop up, and the barrel. You'll never to break into the gearbox and take a look at the compression and air seal, as previously stated.  ???

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Re: KWA M4 hop up *PLEASE HELP*
« Reply #10 on: February 03, 2012, 03:47:51 PM »
how far back on the barrel should the hop up bucking go? all the way to the end of the little slit on the barrel?
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Re: KWA M4 hop up *PLEASE HELP*
« Reply #11 on: February 03, 2012, 03:57:56 PM »
the bucking and barrel should fit snug at the end of the hopup, where the air nozzle pushes the bb through, there should be no space between the bucking, bb, and air nozzle at all. you might be losing air if the end of the bucking lip isnt pushed back all the way.

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Re: KWA M4 hop up *PLEASE HELP*
« Reply #12 on: February 03, 2012, 04:24:20 PM »
everything is fitting together tightly. after everything I've tried with the hop up I think it's probably the air nozzle. Is there anyone here who would check out my gun and see whats wrong for fairly cheap? I'm not asking to fix it but to just see what's wrong with it. I know you Slinkey do tech work.
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Re: KWA M4 hop up *PLEASE HELP*
« Reply #13 on: February 03, 2012, 04:41:12 PM »
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Re: KWA M4 hop up *PLEASE HELP*
« Reply #14 on: February 03, 2012, 07:47:02 PM »
yeah if your at a game that im at just bring it over man i can troble shoot it maby even fix it.

To me it still sounds like the nub is being out of line.