Hatfield Rd Game Feb 12

[ruberup]

Bye bye FNG!

[ghosthollow53]

Ok, i really didn't want to be the first person on this thread to talk about the can of worms, but im going to.  I can speak for a good chunk of players from sundays game. There are too many problems with Team Saguaro cheating and not doing what they ask of other people. This has nothing to do with being 15-20 ft. outside the tree line on a game. The fact that a game happened and all of tan team was not told the game started, by the time we are screaming what the Hell is going on, oh whats that? game over? so the terrorist nuke team, Consisting of mostly green team players, goes straight for the green teams spawn and we dont even get a "GAME ON!" this was still trivial to me compared to the last game of the day. Tan team is told to go off into the desert where we are supposed to spawn. We get the Game On, OUR WHOLE TEAM SPRINTS TO THE CITY TO FIND GREEN TEAM NEVER FUKING LEFT IT. Needless to say, any game you guys host from now on, we will not be attending, about 10-12 of us. Four times in one day your team cant follow the rules THAT YOU YOURSELVES MADE. I understand its not all of you, but its a large enough portion for us to tell people that you cant be trusted. Hatfield getting busted is kinda Karma i guess.

I'm sorry but I was the tan guy on the terrorist team. It had nothing to do with them being green. The green spawn provided more cover and we had a plan to sneak through that side to the town. The Game on was a problem. They yelled game on repetitively. With the last game deal. The problem was, the green spawn is half the distance to the town then the tan, so they got there much quicker. So unless this is it, the team is justified.

[Annon]

No, because we had half our team at the cars watching. were not lights out but they are just as pissed as we are, last game Green was in the city at game on. like i said cant be trusted, in person or on the forum.

[Annon]

you can find my ip too i could care less you still dont know who i am, either way. IM posting cause what was happening on sunday was bullshit. did you realize after the 2nd game more than half of tan sat out the rest of the day because they were beyond pissed? and if the HOSTING TEAM is causing these problems then guess what? it IS their fault for not controlling the game.

[xTanTricK]

If you have a problem with a member of Saguaro don't be afraid to send a PM to one of us. I was not there this past Sunday so I do not know what was going on but from past games most of Tan team is made up of a lot of loose stragglers and new guys. Perhaps you got confused or you guys were talking when the the signal was given to start the game. I played with Saguaro multiple times before I was asked to join and with that being said, I was on the Tan team most of the time. When starting in the desert portion of the field it can be hard to hear when the game is on (personal experience). Everybody who has started on that side of the field has had an experience similiar to the one you have mentioned and it's due to not hearing the signal for game on as you weren't paying attention or whatever. Please take it up in PM's and we can resolve this with out thread crapping or causing drama on the boards. Pm me if you have any problems and I will gladly find out the solution for you.

By the way you probably won't hear many nice things coming from Saguaro now that you called us out. I'm trying to help you out. This is your one chance before something happens.

[Annon]

Please understand what im saying, Enough were called out on THE DAY OF THE GAME, we were told it was resolved, the next game tan was not included, the game after (the last game) We were told that we were to fight over the city. within ONE MINUTE of the "game on" Green was on OUR side of the field in OUR bunkers. And when i say we SPRINTED we did. We had people watching most of green to see where they started, and it was not at the north spawn PERIOD. I dont know a single member of Saguaro, thats why im posting on here. For a fairly New person to your games, seeing this, and talking about it, i would think you would take it more seriously if you wanted to keep having turn outs at your games.

[xTanTricK]

I am taking it seriously. That's why I said PM me and I can get it resolved with the team.

[Bambi-troopers]

hey bud, thanks for the input. i was the one on the outside of the border of the city. this was the first time i was that far out of the city, the reason i was there is because during the previous game, me and spazz were playing and coming up and he got us both out. i noticed his spot as an awsome place to lay down at. at the time i figured it was close to the city, but after beanzor pointed it out. i relized i was in the wrong and simply called myself out, no biggie. i even told luis to go back in and play since i wasnt supposed to be there. but he said oh well since hes the cool guy his is.lol. *sorry bout that again, thanks for pointing it out, i wont be there anymore* well, yea. i realize i was in the wrong during that game and i am sorry if that made you so upset. my appoligies. wont happen again.

2nd i was part of the terriost squad this game. and our plan wasnt anything against the tan team. but back at the area we were at it gives a nice road coverd by trees to help us andvance. but our plan didnt work out. and i do believe i heard them yell out several times that the game was on. there was nothing behind hiding behind the green team. honestly i didnt know who was going to spawn there. i dont even think that was descused while we were at the staging area. but its not a big deal. i talke to chip about starting a game asap after that because of what happend with the tan team so we treid our best to get you guys back in action.


3rd. during the bomb game in the center, i heard spazz and cody talk about sprinting staight to the bomb. so i decided i would run up there aswell. while i was running up there there was only a few tan guys i seen. there was a lights out guy running up to a nearby bush, and 2? tan kids the west of the town. (i know there were more near the lights out guy but i couldnt really see them.) we ran, thats simple. we run during the flag game and we ran during that game. (oh! and me and spazz ran to the south side on the game we were attacking.) but we ran too.

if you have questions or concerns about the bush thing and would like to yell at me. so be it! pm me instaed of on here. i just had to say what i needed to say on here.

 thanks bud,
Jacob Schaeffer
pm me

[ruberup]

As far as the terorist game that was really no ones fault. The terorists decided to hide near the green spawn point but were discovered just after game on was called multiple times by the way. Sorry tan didn't hear it but there was no funny buisiness intended. Thats just the way it happened. I left after that game so I don't know what happened after but I do know Saguaro DOES NOT intentionally cheat and prides ourself on that fact. There may be unintentional, questionable times and that is true in every game ever played. There was a lack of communication between the teams and that does need to be worked out but never was it a "green only" game.
I'm sorry you seem to have such a problem with Saguaro but you would be hard pressed to find a better group of guys to play with. If you come out again cool, if not have fun at Vanguard.

[Archer]

as for the first nook game, it got screwed up with Spazz not starting in the right place AND we went to soon and caught up the green team to fast. THE PLAN was to "follow" green to the city and sneak in the side of the city we saw an opening. IM SORRY if green team get to us first.

as for the second game, well we all know what happen there....

as for saying we are cheating, i take that very seriously also. Cheating or not calling our hits, is a big deal to the members of my team. i have to say that is if you didnt like playing, you wont be missed! im getting sick of all these little whinning asses crying when the lose. i'm man enough to admit when i get my butt kick regards of how it happened.

as for the Lights Out being mad or irratated with Saguaro, you need to know who the people before you start speaking for them. if Lights Out didnt like Saguaro they wouldnt of asked us to design a team on team compation with them, or come to our hosted games.... Andy & Luis are stand up guys and speak there minds when things need to be said.

i think that is enough for me.... for now.

ruber - nicely put!!!!!!
annon - word of advance, i would be careful of who you accuse of doing things.....  ESPECAILLY when you attack a whole team.

[Annon]

I have already sent PMs, and yes the issues are real, no i could care less about winning. And one of the people who was most pissed was a marine for 4 years and complained about this more than i have today. lights out quotes from sunday "Are you F*^king serious this is Bull S*$T" "Hey why don't you guys follow your own rules" and several other profanities relating to the past 2 comments. i was there and heard, so please don't tell me they weren't mad, also im not speaking for them, im just giving you a first hand account of the last hatfield game.

[SLINKEY]

dudes we have no idea whos this annon dude is, and we dont give a shit. we were there to shoot people with bbs.

If the cops came ohh well find a new fucking field or what ever.

Who ever the hell you are dont F******G Talk for my team. WE are not pissed at any one. Yeah there was confusion at the game, and it does happen once in a while. Wtf ever,

Were just there to Shoot noobs.

and killer dragon what do you mean calling us out? lol

[Mooncruiser]

Hey, I made sure each side had a radio. We called it in.
Anon, do us all a favor and bug off. We've been doing this a long time. If our team were cheaters, we would get nobody to play. So, if its not just you bleating, please take yorself and friends elsewhere.
Chip

[Red Devil]

Well yeah you opened up a can of worms you won't eat. ALL the guys on Lights Out are good friends of mine. I just got done talking to them and you are about to find out that you don't speak for them. If you think we were unfair then don't come to our games. We don't need you. Just sit at home and be a chairsofter and troll the forum.

[Annon]

This is 100% what im talking about, you rather have your way then address how other people are taking your games, and yes i would like to hear from lights out who were there. If you were there sunday please PM me or post and let me know. Like i said im not talking for anyone but my group, and giving commentary on what we saw and experienced. If you guys don't care how anyone else feels about your games then my point has been proven.