AZ trust Land & permits

[Fresnel]

He stated that he has one that he uses for paintball so one assumes he's aware of exactly what his fellow LEOs enforce.
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So, I stand by what I said. I'll get a permit and continue to play, knowing that I am doing so by the suggestion of the Law *Enforcement* Officer that patrols the area, assuming that others do the same.

You know what they say about assumptions: they make an ass out of you and me.

That said, a lot of you guys are suggesting fields that are a LOT further east as alternatives. Now I realize that most of you come from the suburban areas of the valley, but not all of us do. I, for one, come from way out in the boonies, and even Hatfield was a 40-minute drive eastbound. I realize you can only make so many people happy, but do at least try to consider us far-west-siders, few as we may be?

[Plauge]

There's a place called Atlantis it's like a town but no one ever goes there that might b a place in the fUture

[DMAN007]

We could start hosting weekly games out at four peaks.

[spazz]

if i had the $30 for gas every week id just go to fighter town for $15 + the $3 or so it cost me in gas to get there and back.

in 10 years that is the first leo to say anything about us playing airsoft out there.
lets scout the land down the street.

bambi you live pretty close. can you and yur dad take a print out of the map and scout the area, mabey take some pics and see what the lay of the land is like?

[GH(+)ST]

jeez. airsoft community seems a little shot down at the present. got to love laws made by the politic men. This is not thier greatest concern but you would think they would at least.........no .....i wouldn't think that... never mind, politicians are just evil. and law enforcers are payed to be pests. I respect them to a degree but things like this make old fasion going out side and getting away from my computer hard as hell.  Maybe we could promote airsoft by getting with some health nuts and use them as supporters lol.

But seriously i am concerned for airsoft and it's survival.  I kinda want to move to a place like flagstaff or something and play in the woods.  I almost got arrested when i shot and missed a guy and my bb hit the poor cactus. It's existance is more important than the continuation of mine.

fight guys, i have yet to play a game hosted by this forum but i am not one to just watch it all turn into vanguard airsoft!

long live out door games!!!

[ghost1216]

Not sure about this location but there is a huge open field at the end of greenway road.

[Fresnel]

Ivan said something a while back about maybe running a game at the Wittmann junkyard. Does anybody know if he looked into that?

[Mooncruiser]

Just know that several people are right now scouting a area near old Hatfield.
Airsoft ain't dead, and we sure as hell aren't going to stop FREE games.
Stay tuned.
Chip

[ThatGuy]

The junk yard would be a PAID game. Not free.  I've been there It's a neet place but probably not going to happin

[Maddog7067]

Why were the cops called? Most of the time cops are called at airsoft event because people see people with guns and they get scared. There could be games on State Land if people don't see us playing. Cops are cool with Airsoft/paintball if they are out to have fun out of site of people.

[xTanTricK]

Either the officer was passing by and since he was bored decided to enforce a law that most of the officers do not care for so long as we aren't harming anybody or somebody walking by called and didn't want us there or somebody just got upset with us. My guess is that it was the first one.

[headhunter]

FWIW, this will be the 3rd or 4th time that Hatfield has been declared dead since I started playing there ten years ago. As long as folks are willing, it'll likely stay active until they sell it off and raze it like they did with the NE section of Hatfield, now known as the empty dirt lot off of 107th and Happy Valley Parkway.

For me it's simple. The deputy said a permit would work. We know it doesn't, but if he comes back to enforce it, he's enforcing what he believes, so I'll show him my permit. If another one comes, well gosh officer, the deputy here on 2/12 told us a permit was fine, sorry about that.

Then again, I'm always one to push the rules. YMMV.

Peter

im with you. an officer told us it was okay, i will use it as a scapegoat. fuck the rules.

[Flick]

My guess is that it was the first one.

I agree. I went back and looked at the tracks he made coming over. It looks like he was following the Agua Fria from the north and came to our side under the bridge. Probably someone called in a report of people driving on the north side and he was trying to find them. Like I said earlier, the first thing out of his mouth was to ask if we were driving vehicles around. When I said no, that we were all on foot and our vehicles were parked off of 107th, he seemed to lose interest.

[headhunter]

jeez. airsoft community seems a little shot down at the present. got to love laws made by the politic men. This is not thier greatest concern but you would think they would at least.........no .....i wouldn't think that... never mind, politicians are just evil. and law enforcers are payed to be pests. I respect them to a degree but things like this make old fasion going out side and getting away from my computer hard as  @#!*% .  Maybe we could promote airsoft by getting with some health nuts and use them as supporters lol.

But seriously i am concerned for airsoft and it's survival.  I kinda want to move to a place like flagstaff or something and play in the woods.  I almost got arrested when i shot and missed a guy and my bb hit the poor cactus. It's existance is more important than the continuation of mine.

fight guys, i have yet to play a game hosted by this forum but i am not one to just watch it all turn into vanguard airsoft!

long live out door games!!!

dont worry. im twelve, and i can get the cops called on me as many times as i want. most cops talk to us and they say that they used to have bb gun wars in their towns too. they think airsofting is cool most of the time...
but there are always the few strict ones.

[Plauge]

Especially when they aim their glock at your face headhunter...