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« on: July 11, 2012, 06:43:53 PM »
I tried rolling this idea around back in Utah but never really got serious about it and figured I'd get some input here to see what you all think.

I usually like to roll around with my 416, 8 mids and sometimes a side arm, but i started using my m249 and have fallen in love with it again. I have to start a new loadout from scratch since i usually rocked all black or almost all black. I'm a dead man if i do that here. I was thinking about doing something like this that is already built and because it looks cool.
http://weaponblender.com/Loadouts/Complete-loadout-Support-class-p5410.html
Its not the loadout i'm curious about but actually playing the role as a true support gunner.

I'd like to roll with a squad and provide plenty of cover fire, help break the barrier and get the team moved up, stay back/move up to create choke points or lone wolf it if need be. What i really need to find is an effective way of providing ammo for people if needed. Say if anyone ever does ammo restricted games. Some ideas were carry lots of speed loaders painted bright orange so i can toss them to people low on ammo, carry little baggies of ammo for high caps to even carrying an auto winding speed loader. Besides resupplying people with ammo, I was wondering about any other ways to support people. Do any fields allow those, "spark-less" smoke bombs? Even if they do claim to be, "spark-less" I still don't believe that they are. I may get some more thunder-b kits to help clear out rooms and cause people to retreat.

I'd love to get some input so i can decide on how to do my new loadout and possibly rebuilding my m249, or sell it and start with a new one then make it into a beast.



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Re: Support Class
« Reply #1 on: July 11, 2012, 06:59:54 PM »
sounds like a great idea. my input though, i see people play in woodland camo. it doesn't really matter what color your camo is. many different kinds have good and bad sides. i personally like a desert(it is more of a 1990's style choco camo) camo with a tan vest. i think it looks a little cooler. it also offers a little more time to decide what to do at night games on the feild. i don't rock a '249, but i love to run with plenty of ammo to help the team stay supplied. i do reccomend using thunder b grenades. they work good and it gets some people nervous to hear one go off in the next room. they don't react as fast that way. and fighter town does happen to allow smoke grenades that have pull rings on them. it offer cover day and night. especially at night when lasers or flash lights stop at the smoke and aren't able to catch you in their path. depending on how big the feild you are on is, squad size makes the whole difference. 4 10-man teams offer fire power but cant breach rooms as easily, as  people will most likely go into a different room and friendly fire may occur. 10 4 man teams can spread out more and cover more spots on the field. they do not offer so much fire power though. so, thats my input.
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Re: Support Class
« Reply #2 on: July 11, 2012, 08:15:28 PM »
Turn your 416 into the M27 IAR and then you have another support weapon.
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Re: Support Class
« Reply #3 on: July 11, 2012, 08:25:38 PM »
Turn your 416 into the M27 IAR and then you have another support weapon.
that was a great idea. it would also be more manuverable/lighter than the m249. more helping where it is needed and running can be done.
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Re: Support Class
« Reply #4 on: July 11, 2012, 08:53:29 PM »
well i took the roll as a support gunner for my team at lc this year. i was wanting to do all the things you are talking about. i ran a m60e4 with plenty of ammo. but it wasnt all i thought it would be. lc is an all day thing and fightertown is short games. heres what i notice being a support gunner at big events.

1. you are unprotected when laying down constant fire, so you must have a battle buddy to help out. you can easily be outflanked if no one is watching your back while you watch theres.
2. i didnt give any of my teammates any mags or speedloaders when the ran out. chances of you or teammate being shot before handing him a mag os pretty high. your teammate is going to carry his amount of mags and speedloaders so he doesnt go empty in the middle of a battle.
3. lar rifle is a good idea but not considered a support gun at big events. so for the rule of single shot indoors was out the window for my 60. you have to carry a pistol to clear rooms. even with a pistol, the odds are against you when you call a rifle with a box mag. you are to noisy and big to sneak and clear rooms. might as well be covering the door till your teammates finish clearing. only support weapon with single shot capabiloties is an rpk.
4. you are useless if your team does not move while you lay down fire. you are just wasting ammo if your teammates dont move up.

so there you have it. i was dedicated support gunner. and my back is killing from calling that damn gun for 2 days.
« Last Edit: July 11, 2012, 08:57:48 PM by chinole »
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Re: Support Class
« Reply #5 on: July 11, 2012, 09:12:27 PM »
The M27 IAR would be cool but with the extended full metal quad rail that sucker will be almost as heavy :P even with my 416 quad rail that thing is heavy after awhile. Besides, as much as i love the look of the M27 I don't believe in having a V2 gearbox in a gun that's for a support role. I would have to get the KWA 2GX gearbox and still do some upgrading.. The gearbox for the 249's are bricks. Ill destroy my battery long before the gearbox even thinks about breaking. The only downer is the box mags. ones for M4's and 249's are garbage, but I've actually had better luck with the 249's box mag after some modding but even then bb's like to sometimes jam with the faster motor in it. Good thing with the 249 is it accepts both box and standard M4 mag's I can use my mids for my 416 and hand those to people running low, but they will be painted so they are easily identified  :) As for thunder B's i plan on having at least 4 on me. Man do i love thunder-b's!

You make some good points there Chinole. As far as having the advantage of crazy firepower, your not all that effective if the team doesn't work with you. Ive started to try and avoid just walking about just hosing a bush that someone is behind until their hand pops up.. As fun as it is, i feel like its kinda cheap and makes the game no fun for others.

I've honestly never seen people scramble for ammo during a game, even when there is an ammo restriction, people are pretty much well stocked up with extra ammo with their speed loaders. I think the idea is more practical than the actual role unfortunately  :-\
« Last Edit: July 11, 2012, 09:14:44 PM by Ruffles »
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Re: Support Class
« Reply #6 on: July 11, 2012, 10:17:00 PM »
Yeah the role of a SAW gunner is a hard one. No one will ever accuse you of being fast or quiet while you're a SAW gunner.

I remember my first LC, I had the 249 and a good 60-80lbs of gear on top of that, try taking a hill that's covered in fine sand, for every step you take, the weight of your gun/gear sets you back two. The fact you are carrying an AEG that (under LC rules) sports more ammo than a regular rifleman, will also make you a big target, don't be surprised when you get attacked first. On the flipside, if you and your buddies get tasked to ambush a convoy, there's really no one better to have at the ready  ;D
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Re: Support Class
« Reply #7 on: July 11, 2012, 11:01:33 PM »
considering you have clearly been inspired by the BF3 "support" class.....

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Re: Support Class
« Reply #8 on: July 11, 2012, 11:09:41 PM »
considering you have clearly been inspired by the BF3 "support" class.....

get C4...

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