Author Topic: What's a better investment?  (Read 3469 times)

Offline SmoothOperator

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Corporal
  • ****
  • Posts: 77
  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA9gUspn6gc
    • View Profile
What's a better investment?
« on: January 26, 2014, 08:55:19 PM »
A custom 1000$+ AEG/Spring/Gas Airsoft gun
Or
A Polarstar build with good hopup chamber,bucking, and tightbore barrel?





« Last Edit: January 26, 2014, 09:51:04 PM by SmoothOperator »
IS THAT A FAMAS?

Offline alphabravowhisky

  • Trade Count: (-1)
  • Private First Class
  • ***
  • Posts: 40
    • View Profile
Re: What's a better investment?
« Reply #1 on: January 26, 2014, 10:49:22 PM »
AEG u can make it just like a p* for 300 that's what I did hope it helpec

Offline CoyDog8

  • Trade Count: (+4)
  • Sergeant
  • *****
  • Posts: 187
    • View Profile
Re: What's a better investment?
« Reply #2 on: January 26, 2014, 10:55:38 PM »
If you have the money polar star all day. Don't have to worry about batteries (except the little one to power the fcu), no gears or pistons to strip, no motor to fry. Only draw back is carrying the tank on your back and having to get the tanks refilled which depending on where you play isn't a big deal at all.  You can change the fps with about 3 screws and a new nozzle.

Offline Bob Z Moose

  • Trade Count: (+7)
  • Second Lieutenant
  • *****
  • Posts: 830
  • The $$60,000,000,000 Man
    • View Profile
Re: What's a better investment?
« Reply #3 on: January 26, 2014, 11:08:15 PM »
A custom 1000$+ AEG/Spring/Gas Airsoft gun
Or
A Polarstar build with good hopup chamber,bucking, and tightbore barrel?

$1000+
$1000+
$1000+
$1000+

OK... No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

How did you arrive at the figure of 1000 motherfucking dollars?! For a toy gun?!

Serious mode now. You're leaving out the two most important parts of this: 1. What application are you going for with this build? Field? CQB? 2. What's your preference in platform? M4? AK? Something else?

Once you've answered those questions, ponder on this: Spazz can make a $150 Combat Machine perform beautifully. I've seen his work up close and I can attest to how good it is. The thing is, he can make the gun work awesome for much less than $1000+.

I'm not sure about the P* route. They're definitely more flexible than AEGs when it comes to adapting to more than one role (i.e. going from field to CQB and back again by adjusting pressure).  The initial investment is going to be decently high and you'll have to start running at least a battle belt (if you don't run gear right now). There still seems to be some kinks that are still being worked out with the fusion engines, but hopefully a P* owner comes along and expands on this better than I can.

Really, the choice is yours. Remember, the equipment doesn't make the player.
Team Manaconda
Don't dick with us!

Offline XavierMace

  • Site Admin
  • Administrator
  • Trade Count: (+16)
  • Major General
  • *****
  • Posts: 2906
    • View Profile
    • http://www.xaviermace.com
Re: What's a better investment?
« Reply #4 on: January 26, 2014, 11:09:53 PM »
$1000+
$1000+
$1000+
$1000+

OK... No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

How did you arrive at the figure of 1000 motherfucking dollars?! For a toy gun?!

You don't want to know what I've spent on some of my airsoft guns then.

Offline Bob Z Moose

  • Trade Count: (+7)
  • Second Lieutenant
  • *****
  • Posts: 830
  • The $$60,000,000,000 Man
    • View Profile
Re: What's a better investment?
« Reply #5 on: January 26, 2014, 11:14:39 PM »
Quite sure bricks would be shat at that point.
Team Manaconda
Don't dick with us!

Offline SmoothOperator

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Corporal
  • ****
  • Posts: 77
  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA9gUspn6gc
    • View Profile
Re: What's a better investment?
« Reply #6 on: January 27, 2014, 12:17:44 AM »
"OK... No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

How did you arrive at the figure of 1000 motherfucking dollars?! For a toy gun?!"

Alot of people have spent over $1000 for the Sport/Hobby.

Personally I'm looking to keep my primary for 10+ years and I only intend on having 1 primary, and 1 secondary. I would never build a 1000$+ AEG from the ground up, It's cheaper to buy a polarstar that does the same thing for 830$ (Includes barrel,bucking,hopunit upgrades,air canister,good air line,fusion system). I'm only concerned about the "Moores law" of the fusion system and the Updates (V1,V2,V3). Polarstars also effectively remove the branding+quality associated with guns, A Nerf Polarstar is about if not more effective than a TM m4.

I have no doubt that Spazz can make a cheaper gun gold, But it's paying for a service and if you aren't a techie, the maintenance costs add up to make the polarstar a better financial option in the long run in my opinion, especially if you play ALOT.
IS THAT A FAMAS?

Offline Illh4veAcoke

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Corporal
  • ****
  • Posts: 96
  • ShadowViper Airsoft Team
    • View Profile
Re: What's a better investment?
« Reply #7 on: January 27, 2014, 07:31:03 AM »
And what do you think the tech fees will be for a P*, cheaper? They DO break. Maybe little more reliable possibly but I have seen it. Same gun for 10 years...... Probably not.

Offline SmoothOperator

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Corporal
  • ****
  • Posts: 77
  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA9gUspn6gc
    • View Profile
Re: What's a better investment?
« Reply #8 on: January 27, 2014, 08:29:35 AM »
"Same gun for 10 years...... Probably not." I was planning on modifying it to keep up with performance upgrades.
IS THAT A FAMAS?

Offline Exarach

  • Trade Count: (+7)
  • Brigadier General
  • *****
  • Posts: 1769
    • View Profile
Re: What's a better investment?
« Reply #9 on: January 27, 2014, 08:43:21 AM »
"Same gun for 10 years...... Probably not." I was planning on modifying it to keep up with performance upgrades.

I have AEG's that I have had for 5 years or so, still going strong.

I have both, and would recommend the AEG.
A simple mosfet and spacer fixes the trigger response, and, while it was really nice to have a quick change fps, when was the last time you needed it?

I found with the polarstar I could be incredible precise with my air output, but in the end, if I wanted to go and "Use" a system, I would grab an AEG.
 
\"Friendly fire isn\'t\"
If a speeding pellet in a quiet woods hits a noob in the face, and he cries, does anyone care?

Offline Old Dog

  • Trade Count: (+23)
  • Master Sergeant
  • *****
  • Posts: 428
  • No Longer Cujo :(
    • View Profile
Re: What's a better investment?
« Reply #10 on: January 27, 2014, 09:00:27 AM »
"Same gun for 10 years...... Probably not." I was planning on modifying it to keep up with performance upgrades.

There go your savings, paying a techie to keep your upgrades current for ten years, where is your gain?
By then the P* will be old tech and the Thecur will be all over the other systems...
I am just a chalk line on the sidewalk waiting for the next rain to wash me off...
For the time I am here I am what I am...

Offline sigma85051

  • Trade Count: (+3)
  • Sergeant First Class
  • *****
  • Posts: 264
    • View Profile
Re: What's a better investment?
« Reply #11 on: January 27, 2014, 09:23:22 AM »
I have had both and like both. P* cost more to start and you get 1style of gun to play with unless u remove the engine and swap it to another gun. And when a polar star dose crash it is not cheap to fix. To counter that though they do last a long time before u brake it. Now if you went with an AEG and had a good tech build it for you and possibly teach u how to maintain it than there will be no problem. Now if your saying u have $1000 to blow on Airsoft than build 2 maybe 3 AEGs for every role u will find. 1 high speed cqb 1 standard field gun and than some bad ass dmr like a m110. I will say having just 1 gun for 10 years will not be fun. By the end of your first year with it u will probably have changed everything on it and spent more money. As I say again both have goods and bads I like both but u need to talk with some good techs to find the best way to go.
Wolf Pack Omega team leader
G&G customs gotta love em'
The hunt is on!

Offline SmoothOperator

  • Trade Count: (+1)
  • Corporal
  • ****
  • Posts: 77
  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cA9gUspn6gc
    • View Profile
Re: What's a better investment?
« Reply #12 on: January 27, 2014, 10:22:31 AM »

"There go your savings, paying a techie to keep your upgrades current for ten years, where is your gain?
By then the P* will be old tech and the Thecur will be all over the other systems..."


That's exactly what I'm worried about when I refer to the "Moores Law" of airsoft.
When airsoft was first starting out, it was gbb w/ external tanks. Then marui introduced aegs. Now polarstar introduced air powered w/ external tanks.
IS THAT A FAMAS?

Offline Shadow

  • Trade Count: (0)
  • Sergeant Major
  • *****
  • Posts: 525
  • Tappin' fools from 300'+
    • View Profile
Re: What's a better investment?
« Reply #13 on: January 27, 2014, 10:23:21 AM »
P* all day.
Six Charlie
Phantom Retired
Prop Wash Gang

Offline Bob Z Moose

  • Trade Count: (+7)
  • Second Lieutenant
  • *****
  • Posts: 830
  • The $$60,000,000,000 Man
    • View Profile
Re: What's a better investment?
« Reply #14 on: January 27, 2014, 03:07:34 PM »
Alot of people have spent over $1000 for the Sport/Hobby.

Yes, but (in my case) not on 1 gun. I've probably spent close to that on about 8 different guns. Then again, I've also made money by flipping a few guns, so that has to be taken into consideration.

Personally I'm looking to keep my primary for 10+ years

AEGs can be just as durable. I've got 3 sitting in the safe that are pushing that age, all TMs. The SOCOM 16 could do with a good tune up, but it's gone through 3 owners (that I know of) and is still running great. A friend of mine has a couple of ICS MP5s that keep on going, despite closing in on the decade mark.

You seem sold on the P*, though. It's a good choice, don't get me wrong, but as others have said, they do break.

It's basically the innards of a paintball gun modified to work in a body designed for a gearbox. O-rings can and will fail. Micro switches can fail, as can the circuitry in the boards. They still require maintenance that will require some tech knowledge or a trip to someone who works on P*s. Air tanks also have a built in life to them. Most places won't fill a tank that is out of hydro. Having multiple tanks is also a must if you plan on going to a very long game.

When all is said and done, it's your choice and a P* isn't a bad one. There's just a lot of people that prefer the pick up and go quality of an AEG.
Team Manaconda
Don't dick with us!