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Offline -MAD- SARGE

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« Reply #15 on: July 02, 2004, 05:58:20 PM »
If you do not learn from history's mistakes, your bound to repeat them.  We learned from our mistakes after WWI and did the complete opposite after WWII and Europe is the better for it.
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« Reply #16 on: July 02, 2004, 06:28:47 PM »
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by -MAD- SARGE</i>
<br />If you do not learn from history's mistakes, your bound to repeat them.  We learned from our mistakes after WWI and did the complete opposite after WWII and Europe is the better for it.
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Ahh, but basically the whole "Middle East" came out of WWII. Before WWII, the middle east was just a bunch of roaming arabs, but Europe transferred power to certian tribes and basically laid the grounds for all the countries. Without Europe's intervention, the middle east would still be a bunch of camels and nomads, and europeans (France, probably) would still own all the oil.

Also, someone had a quote that said: "Those who do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it; those who do are doomed to repeat it in a more informed way."
I liked that one.

*Edited for punctuation.
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« Reply #17 on: July 02, 2004, 09:05:13 PM »
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by yellowmonkey</i>
<br /><blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Fnord</i>
<br /> Shall we create more tax breaks for big bussiness [...]<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

I think that is an incorrect statement. Big companies get tax breaks becasue they are entitled to them becasue of the money they invest in the economy.
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That's your opinion. Fair enough. I don't think that they are entitled to tax breaks. I think that as the gulf between the rich and the poor expands, big companies should look more at cutting executives' salaries and perks rather than ways to avoid thier corprate duty i.e. pay thier taxes.
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 Not that fat cats can't be evil people, but if you say that only the middle to lower class deserves tax breaks... that is unfair and biased.
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You're right. I'm not saying that. The government needs money top operate (obviously). I'm saying that we need a revision of our tax code to a more fair system. A flat, accross the board tax rate is one (but not the only) solution.
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 That would be like saying that we should a certian ethnic group extra money and benefits just because they are different. That would be unfair (even though it happens).
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Yup. I agree. One example- a little thing called Affirmitive Action.
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A government should be unbiased and fair. If this were a perfect world, things would balance out and everyone would share until things were equal... but it is not a perfect world and Kerry is a communist.
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lol - I think that we agree on this one.
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« Reply #18 on: July 14, 2004, 01:15:27 PM »
agreed with the unspoken one.  my view on big business is an old republican one, that of abe lincoln.  they ahve way to much power, and they make to much money, becuase they do so at the detriment of the majority of the people.  personally, i dont like kerry.  the guy creeps me out.  if it were kerry vs, say, mcain, id vote republican.  but bush, bush frightens me.
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« Reply #19 on: July 14, 2004, 01:38:59 PM »
Kerry voted 51 times in favor of private gun ownership. Just go look at his votes! If you go to his web site it will say he is a gun supporter, but if you look at his votes it says a diff story. I will say this.

**** Kerry
**** Kerry
**** Kerry

If you vote for him you can kiss your airsoft goodbye.
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« Reply #20 on: July 14, 2004, 01:40:29 PM »
Oh, Yeah!

If you don't vote then your opinion does not count!
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« Reply #21 on: July 14, 2004, 02:08:12 PM »
hold it, did he vote for or against?
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« Reply #22 on: July 14, 2004, 10:55:22 PM »
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by JesseJamesMcGuire</i>
<br />Kerry voted 51 times in favor of private gun ownership. Just go look at his votes! If you go to his web site it will say he is a gun supporter, but if you look at his votes it says a diff story.<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

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Ummm, I guess I'm not following your line of reasoning. I'm in favor of being able to own guns (private gun ownership). That makes me (as far as I can tell) a gun supporter.
 So if I was to somehow get elected to the Senate and I voted in favor of private gun ownership 51 times, how would that tell a "diff story"? How would votes for private gun ownership cause us to lose airsoft?
Not trying to flame or be hostile, but are you sure of your facts and sources?
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« Reply #23 on: July 15, 2004, 08:40:51 AM »
um, I think that he meant that Kerry has voted against gun ownership 51 times. Not the other way around. He has sponsered every gun-ban that has hit the table in his terms.

Hope this cleared up the problem.
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« Reply #24 on: July 15, 2004, 02:56:29 PM »
Crap.

Sorry about that I was at work when typing that post and trying to avoid my bosses ever prying eyes.

Kerry Hates guns he always will, so anyone that is against the ownership of any type of weapon is a Commi SOB to me.

Let me name some examples here.

Pol Pot
Mao
Hitler
Sodomy HussenASs

They we anit gun also need I say more.
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« Reply #25 on: July 15, 2004, 02:58:21 PM »
Btw in the eyes of the law an airsoft gun is treated the same as a regular firearm. That my friend is how you can lose your airsoft
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« Reply #26 on: July 15, 2004, 03:01:13 PM »
Correction to my typo


Let me name some examples here.

Pol Pot
Mao
Hitler
Sodomy HussenASs

They were anit gun also need I say more.
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« Reply #27 on: July 15, 2004, 11:41:34 PM »
I support bush all the way. Sure he hasnt done a great job of running the country, but atleast hes not some anti gun bitch that is going to restrict, and possibly ban airsoft.
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« Reply #28 on: July 16, 2004, 09:14:47 AM »
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by phxdemon</i>
<br />I support bush all the way. Sure he hasnt done a great job of running the country[...]
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So what do you feel were his shortcomings in running the country?
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« Reply #29 on: July 16, 2004, 11:32:59 PM »
I just believe that going into Iraq was a mistake. I just don't want vietnam to repeat itself. I also think it was stupid to go against the UN in the first place when we got into Iraq. However we need to keep Bush in office because he seems to be handling things to the best of his ability, while Kerry would not know how to handle the situation.
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