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Offline Screwloose

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« on: November 12, 2004, 03:31:07 PM »
Guess his main problem was that he was not a black football player.
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« Reply #1 on: November 12, 2004, 04:53:43 PM »
That's always my problem...

If this trial came down to a hung jury, so many people would go to the streets in protest... kind of glad it's over and a verdict was found.
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« Reply #2 on: November 12, 2004, 10:24:20 PM »
Also a pretty big part of it is just that the media took this side of it. And whatever the media does America is sure to follow, they hate the war: America hates the war (not saying I do) They hate Bush: we hate Bush ( once again I don't hate him).

If OJ's trial were to happen again and the media took the other side he'd be convicted. Alot of people will side with whatever you tell them.
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« Reply #3 on: November 13, 2004, 12:48:57 AM »
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by gdaqb</i>
<br />And whatever the media does America is sure to follow, they hate the war: America hates the war (not saying I do) They hate Bush: we hate Bush ( once again I don't hate him).

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We hate bush? Wasnt he re-elected..wait...a week ago? The media can try and control what people think, but they dont have the people following them for "sure" at all.  And the jurors arent allowed to view material on the case (ie any news show) which prevents the media from having ANY effect on the case's outcome.
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« Reply #4 on: November 13, 2004, 04:52:51 PM »
My personal opinion on this case is that there was not enough evidence to convict him,but at the same time I'm glad it's over with,oh well another one slips through the cracks of the justice system!It's not the first time and it certainly won't be the last!
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« Reply #5 on: November 13, 2004, 08:46:10 PM »
If they give him the death penalty, they need to give him some of what he gave to his old lady.  An anchor around his ankle and dropped off a fishin boat.

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« Reply #6 on: November 13, 2004, 09:40:47 PM »
Horribly horribly humiliated...
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« Reply #7 on: November 13, 2004, 09:44:04 PM »
Umm..no.  It was found washed up on the shore. Nice job....
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« Reply #8 on: November 13, 2004, 10:36:05 PM »
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by MicrowvbleTurtle</i>
<br />Her body was found burned on the side of the road... good job lead!
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check your facts buddy.  dunno what you were thinking but your completely off.
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« Reply #9 on: November 13, 2004, 10:36:45 PM »
Microwvble, that was another case on the other side of the country.  
Peterson shouldn't get the needle, he should suffer in jail for the rest of his life w/o the possibilty of parole.  He needs "Bubba" to give him a massage.
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« Reply #10 on: November 14, 2004, 11:46:36 AM »
I'm not trying to get down on anyone in particular but why do some of us feel the need to sanction rape in prison every time we think someone needs punishment? With that mentality, rape has become endemic to our prison system. Kid steals a car, gets his butt popped. Kid gets busted for drugs, gets his butt popped. Kid, bla,bla, bla, get his… And I'm not talkin about "popped" as in arrested. I'm talkin popped as in sodomized. Personally, I consider rapists right up there next to murderers. Why in hell should we condone either of their crimes, particularly within our criminal justice system?

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« Reply #11 on: November 14, 2004, 11:50:18 AM »
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by MicrowvbleTurtle</i>
<br />Her body was found burned on the side of the road... good job lead!
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Dude, I don't make it my practise to follow these friggen "media event" type trials, but CHRIST ALMIGHTY even I knew he threw her in the drink!

I'd appreciate if in the future you checked some of YER facts before you jumped on mine (not that I haven't been known to be way off base now and then, heheh).

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« Reply #12 on: November 14, 2004, 12:22:49 PM »
I was thinking of another case(as Dust2Dust said) where a woman was kidnapped and found later, burned on the side of the road... they believed it was a cult who had done this.

Maybe I should stop ignoring the media and shut my mouth...
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Peterson Convicted.
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2004, 02:59:51 PM »
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/6385208/?GT1=5809

Scott Peterson convicted of murder
First-degree verdict could bring death penalty

The Associated Press
Updated: 4:57 p.m. ET Nov. 12, 2004


REDWOOD CITY, Calif. - Scott Peterson was convicted Friday of murdering his pregnant wife and dumping her body in San Francisco Bay in what prosecutors portrayed as a cold-blooded attempt to escape marriage and fatherhood for the bachelor life.

Peterson, 32, could get the death penalty. He was convicted of one count of first-degree murder for killing his wife and one count of second-degree murder in the death of the son she was carrying.

The jury of six men and six women will reconvene Nov. 22 to begin hearing arguments on whether Peterson should die by lethal injection or be sentenced to life in prison without parole.

The verdict came after a five-month trial that was an endless source of fascination to the tabloids, People magazine and the cable networks with its story of an attractive, radiant young couple awaiting the birth of their first child, a cheating husband and a slaying for which prosecutors had no witnesses, no weapon, not even a cause of death.

Scott Peterson stared straight ahead with no show of emotion as the verdict was read, then looked at each of the jurors as they were polled to confirm their decisions. The jurors looked serious and unsmiling, and none appeared to look back at Peterson.

Cheers broke out among the hundreds of onlookers who gathered outside court — some of them pumping their fists in celebration upon finding out the news on the radio.

Laci Peterson’s mother, Sharon Rocha, sobbed as the verdicts were read, and her son Brent wrapped his arm tightly around her. Laci Peterson’s friends in the gallery, arms around one another, cried. Sobs and loud sighs could be heard in the courtroom.

After the jury was dismissed, prosecutor James Brazelton reached forward and patted the shoulder of the lead detective, whose testimony in the case proved pivotal.


Turbulent trial
The verdict followed seven tumultuous days of deliberations in which two jurors were removed for unspecified reasons and the judge twice told the panel to start over.

On Wednesday, Judge Alfred A. Delucchi dismissed the foreman, a man in his mid-40s who has medical and law degrees. The judge did not disclose his reasoning. Juror No. 5 was replaced by an alternate whose future son-in-law now owns a restaurant that Scott and Laci Peterson once owned in San Luis Obispo, and the newly reconstituted jury began deliberating that day.

That action came a day after the removal of another juror who apparently did her own research on the case, violating the judge’s order to consider only evidence presented at trial. Each time a juror is dismissed, the panel must begin deliberations anew.


Husband quickly aroused suspicion
Laci Peterson, 27, a substitute teacher, was eight months pregnant when she vanished around Christmas Eve 2002. Four months later, her headless body and the remains of her fetus were discovered along the shoreline about 90 miles from the couple’s home in Modesto — not far from where her husband claimed he was fishing alone the day of her disappearance.

Peterson was soon arrested in the San Diego area, more than 400 miles from home, carrying nearly $15,000, his hair and goatee bleached blond.

Police never were able to establish exactly when, how or where Laci died.

At trial, prosecutors presented 174 witnesses and hundreds of pieces of evidence, from wiretapped phone calls to videotaped police interrogations, depicting Peterson as liar and a philanderer who was sweet-talking his girlfriend, massage therapist Amber Frey, at the same time he was trying to show the world he was pining for his missing wife.

Prosecutor Rick Distaso told the jury that Peterson, a former fertilizer salesman, could not stand the thought of being trapped in a “dull, boring, married life with kids,â€￾ and either strangled or smothered his wife and dumped her weighted-down body overboard from his fishing boat.

“He wants to live the rich, successful, freewheeling bachelor life. He can’t do that when he’s paying child support, alimony and everything else,â€￾ Distaso said. “He didn’t want to be tied to this kid the rest of his life. He didn’t want to be tied to Laci for the rest of his life. So he killed her.â€￾

The jury heard how Scott Peterson had bought a two-day ocean-fishing license days before Laci Peterson disappeared, yet claimed his fishing trip was a last-minute substitution for golf because of blustery weather. Prosecutors also offered evidence suggesting that he used a bag of cement mix to make concrete anchors to sink his wife’s body into the bay.


Alternative culprit argued
Peterson never took the stand. His lawyers argued that he was the victim of a frame-up. They suggested that someone else — perhaps homeless people, sex offenders or suspicious-looking characters spotted in the neighborhood — abducted Laci Peterson while she walked the dog, then killed her and dumped the body in the water after learning of Scott Peterson’s fishing-trip alibi.

Peterson’s lawyers also offered evidence that the fetus may have died days or weeks after his wife’s disappearance, when he was being watched closely by the police and the media.

And they explained his lies and inconsistent statements about his affair and his activities around the time of Laci Peterson’s disappearance as the mutterings of a man in the midst of a breakdown over his missing wife.

Defense attorney Mark Geragos acknowledged that the jurors probably hated Peterson, but he pleaded with them not to convict him simply because the prosecution had made him look like a “jerk and a liar.â€￾

Geragos also noted the lingering questions about how Laci Peterson died. “Maybe the logical explanation for the fact that we have no evidence of her struggling in that house, dying in that house is because it didn’t happen in that house,â€￾ he said.

In addition, Geragos said police found that someone had used a computer in the Petersons’ home on the morning Laci Peterson vanished — after authorities contend that she was already dead — to search Web sites for a scarf and a sunflower-motif umbrella stand. He suggested that the user was Laci Peterson.

Made for cable TV
The story proved irresistible to the cable networks, which almost every night brought in experts to pick apart the two sides’ legal strategies and expound on some of the soap opera aspects of the case, which included hours of secretly taped calls in which Scott Peterson spun out elaborate tales to Frey.

Frey herself testified, saying Peterson told her during their affair that he had “lost his wife.â€￾ But she said that in all their recorded conversations, he repeatedly professed his love for his wife and never said anything to incriminate himself in her slaying.

In January, the case was moved from Modesto to Redwood City after defense attorneys argued that Peterson had been demonized in his hometown to the point that he could not get a fair trial.

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