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Offline Farslayer

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« on: December 28, 2004, 08:26:43 AM »
One of the reasons I was drawn to AA (not the 12-step one) was the fact that there was an age restriction.  We all know the rules concerning minors at the "official" skirmishes.  Even when a minor is participating, they are being sponsored, and therefore, are on their best behavior.

Recently, I have been in contact with several AA member's who feel frustrated because of the number of minors who refuse to play fairly.  I presume they are talking about the "unofficial" skrimishes taking place up there.  Unfortunately, I have experienced the same thing down here in Tucson....I was recently shot in the face by a 15 year old that I shot several times while they were in a prone position, and then when they took a knee, and then when they turned around......you get the idea.  Needless to say, for the rest of the skirmish, I made sure he knew that he was shot.

Unlike other teams in Tucson, SWAIRTAC doesn't allow minors on our team for that very reason.  (Actually, our youngest player is just turning 18, but he is very mature and responsible.    He's also an Eagle Scout and I've sponsored him up there for AA games) We have also been approached by several prospective members who don't want to "baby sit" minors during skrimishes or worry about poor sports, etc.

I wonder if anyone else feels the same.  You have all read the posts "begging" to let some minor noob prove himself to be worthy of AA.  We've stopped "sponsoring" skrimishes but may have to start again down here and insist that no minors attend....
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« Reply #1 on: December 28, 2004, 09:07:44 AM »
Well Ill give you my opinion, Its tempting to cheat for a younger person because they feel like they can get away with it. Heck maybe thats why they DO play airsoft instead of paintball, so they can just say they werent hit. Even thought I am a  minor, I can understand not wanting anyone under 18 to play, but you are going to have cheaters and disrespectful players of all ages(most will probably be under 18). I don't even like playing with other minors unless they are ones I know and they are my friends, therefore I know that they are trustworthy and honest and won't cheat.

Just my .02
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« Reply #2 on: December 28, 2004, 09:09:33 AM »
Quote from: "busta_cap"
Well Ill give you my opinion, Its tempting to cheat for a younger person because they feel like they can get away with it. Heck maybe thats why they DO play airsoft instead of paintball, so they can just say they werent hit. Even thought I am a  minor, I can understand not wanting anyone under 18 to play, but you are going to have cheaters and disrespectful players of all ages(most will probably be under 18). I don't even like playing with other minors unless they are ones I know and they are my friends, therefore I know that they are trustworthy and honest and won't cheat.

Just my .02


Right on Busta, not coming down on all minors....but most of the cheaters (down here) tend to be younger.
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« Reply #3 on: December 28, 2004, 09:26:55 AM »
Although, of the maybe 3 people that I think cheat a lot, most are well over 18. (Nobody that is actually on this forum, but I still don't want to say names.)

BTW- Paco, maybe we need to go back to having brackets around smilies- look at busta's post...
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« Reply #4 on: December 28, 2004, 09:40:07 AM »
Yeah, hey greg when you get back, mail me that damn AP cover! But I know who greg is talking about, and the guys hes talking about are the last people you would think would actually cheat...Its sad really.
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« Reply #5 on: December 28, 2004, 03:41:06 PM »
Damn Newbies....Damn kids.......double damn the newbie kids
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« Reply #6 on: December 28, 2004, 03:52:37 PM »
Quote from: "USMC-Greg"
Although, of the maybe 3 people that I think cheat a lot, most are well over 18. (Nobody that is actually on this forum, but I still don't want to say names.)



you talking about "mr invincible"? For those of you who dont know this guy is: He was in his mid or early 40s, that would often cheat. I emptied an entire 250 round hicap into him from 20 feet once, and he never called a single hit. And me being an honest player was hit once by him, and i called my hit. His son often cheated too(this kid was like 11 or 12). Needless to say, we banned him from all airsoft addicts games. I havent seen him in quite a while.

Being over 18 now, i honestly have no problem keeping kids out of my games, or AA(both airsoft addicts, and airsoft arizona). If i ever recieve any compaints of people cheating, i report it to the senior guy running the game.
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« Reply #7 on: December 28, 2004, 07:06:33 PM »
I have also watched older people cheat.  At OP Cold burn I shot a guy 3 times in the chest watched as he brushed it off, because he couldnt see me.  The next round went to his head (not that I was aiming for his head, the hop up sometimes throws one high,)  Well it hit his cheek and he took a step back and yelled "snipers arent supposed to take headshots!"  I waited and after 30 seconds of trying to find me he put his gun back up and started firing at another player.  SO we play this back again.  I fired 3 more into his chest.  He stopped and looked down and said " Ha it missed."  and resumed firing.  Next shot his his head again, same cheek.  He stepped back and stood there looking as hard as he could for 30 seconds.  Finally he spotted me and yelled out "There he is!  Hes over there! ) and pointed me out to his teammates.  

None the less I was pissed off.  But I never confronted him as I knew only bad things would come from a player like that.  Needless to say there are a few out there that I would not care to play with.
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« Reply #8 on: December 28, 2004, 10:50:26 PM »
Yeah, I have been running threw thick brush and have heard snaps of twigs and called myself out LOL with no one insite,

I admit that if you hit my gear I wont feel the BB and if I am running I wont hear it neither, but like Ryan was saying Once is understandable but if you keep nailing the guy then thats Just BS

Also As you know I like to snipe. I have run into more cheater as a sniper then ever before,
problem being I am hidden and a good 150+ ft away so the (cheater) does see me. They feel the hit looks around and keeps moving 2nd shot 3 shot all the samething 4th shot is to the head, but by that time I am normaly spotted,
What they fell to understand is that I am looking threw a scope So I see what the BB hits each and every time


On another Note maybe instead of pointing out the cheaters lets reward the guys that do call there hits......maybe people will get the hint this way

lets all think of away to reward honesty maybe a small raffle at each AA event. Bag of BBs, Green Gas,Etc, Etc
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« Reply #9 on: December 28, 2004, 10:58:35 PM »
I always felt that friendship and trust was earned by playing fair.  It was always a yearning to play fair for me.  This is the reward for me.
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« Reply #10 on: December 28, 2004, 11:54:44 PM »
Quote from: "gixser13"
lets all think of away to reward honesty maybe a small raffle at each AA event. Bag of BBs, Green Gas,Etc, Etc


i like that idea. Have a vote for players. The most senior guys make a recommendation, then EVERYONE votes on it. that would be a cool way of rewarding people.
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« Reply #11 on: December 29, 2004, 08:41:38 AM »
I understand and agree with you Ryan, but a way to curve the cheating is to show we reward honesty.

Cheaters ruin this sport more then anything,
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