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« Reply #90 on: March 08, 2005, 06:52:54 PM »
busta think about the russians... do they care about hostages. most of the time they end up killing more than the terrorists anyways hehe. im just saying id be a handy little screw on  launcher instead of a 200 dollar one thats a separate gun all together.
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« Reply #91 on: March 08, 2005, 07:00:29 PM »
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busta think about the russians... do they care about hostages. most of the time they end up killing more than the terrorists anyways hehe.


Not really.  If you are referencing the takeover at the theatre by Chechen rebels, the hostages died from a combination of fatigue and the gas used.  To say they don't care about hostages is ridiculous!
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« Reply #92 on: March 08, 2005, 07:37:08 PM »
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I have never heard of a CQB game where their were semi auto requirements, or a no head shots rule.

There have been a few CQB games that others have put together where it is semi-only, and head shots discouraged but no rule against them.  Bring your aim a bit lower is the idea.  Its pretty hard to make a rule telling your bbs where to go once they leave the barrel.  [sarcasm] Because, as we all know, airsoft bbs are just as accurate as the real thing.[/sarcasm]


By the way, it's kind of nice having less BB's on the floor, because as we all know, they are round, and have low friction, and when the floor is cement or something, things can get interesting (speaking from personal experience). So I think it's safe to say that Semi only can be safer/more efficient in CQB, and less hazardous in the aftermath.
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« Reply #93 on: March 08, 2005, 08:05:22 PM »
i never said russinas dont care about hostages but it seems killing the terrorist is the first priority on the spetsnaz's mind. theres just something so satisfying about spraying an unweary idiot with 24 bbs from a close enclosed area. its definitly more daunting to start a game knowing some one has a very large gas powered bb blaster and there out there waiting for you. it would probably be even scarier knowing all they had to do was screw on a little attachment to an already strong aeg and they ready to kick ass.
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« Reply #94 on: March 08, 2005, 08:09:27 PM »
Problem is: HOW WOULD YOU FIRE IT!!!??? Its nearly impossible to fire a rifle grenade using an airsoft gun. The bb would stay in the barrel, and cause damage. Its just like having a jam in your barrel.
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« Reply #95 on: March 08, 2005, 08:50:01 PM »
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I have never heard of a CQB game where their were semi auto requirements, or a no head shots rule.

There have been a few CQB games that others have put together where it is semi-only, and head shots discouraged but no rule against them.  Bring your aim a bit lower is the idea.  Its pretty hard to make a rule telling your bbs where to go once they leave the barrel.  [sarcasm] Because, as we all know, airsoft bbs are just as accurate as the real thing.[/sarcasm]


This is actually what prompted some to the CQB training we had so that in engagements under 20 ft. You could always place the round where you aim. But it takes lots of practice, and as long as your gun is in good working order there is no reason why you can't hit center mass at close distances. And since most scenarios involve hostage rescue using full auto is insane.
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« Reply #96 on: March 09, 2005, 08:26:26 AM »
make a barrel extension with a hole under the barrel for the bb to fall out, the gun would shoot the bbs into the pressure plate on the grenade, fire it then it would fall out of the barrel through the hole.
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« Reply #97 on: March 09, 2005, 08:28:51 AM »
in not a designer i just think if they could make it it would look good
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« Reply #98 on: March 09, 2005, 08:44:21 AM »
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make a barrel extension with a hole under the barrel for the bb to fall out, the gun would shoot the bbs into the pressure plate on the grenade, fire it then it would fall out of the barrel through the hole.


A new shell would be required for that. I don't think a BB can hit hard enough(at least under 400 FPS) to activated the pressure plate on the back of the grenade. And at the rate it traveled, it wouldn't simply fall out of the little hole, it would bound back down your barrel. I understand that your not the designer, but there really is no point for a rifle grenade launcher.
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« Reply #99 on: March 09, 2005, 10:29:51 AM »
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make a barrel extension with a hole under the barrel for the bb to fall out, the gun would shoot the bbs into the pressure plate on the grenade, fire it then it would fall out of the barrel through the hole.

A new shell would be required for that. I don't think a BB can hit hard enough(at least under 400 FPS) to activated the pressure plate on the back of the grenade. And at the rate it traveled, it wouldn't simply fall out of the little hole, it would bound back down your barrel. I understand that your not the designer, but there really is no point for a rifle grenade launcher.


I can't seem to find it now, but there is such an item.  I think it replaced the flashhider and could hold a 40mm grenade.  When you fired the grenade, you took it off and the grenade holder would stay on and could be shot through.  I don't know if it had any sort of mechanism for expelling the BB.

I can't recall what company made it, so its difficult for me to search for it.
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« Reply #100 on: March 09, 2005, 02:54:59 PM »
Thats just about the most lame idea I have ever heard... If you want a Grenade launcher, buy one.
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« Reply #101 on: March 09, 2005, 05:24:47 PM »
Busta, "lame" idea or not, is not the issue here. Airsoft in many respects mimics the real world in it's scenarios and weaponry. Since there actually is such a device, it stands to reason that there is a real world need for it, and consequently, an airsoft need as well. In WWII and the Korean conflict, the US fielded a muzzle mounted grenade launcher that was quite effective. Although I have yet to see an airsoft version of the device, it wouldn't surprise me if there was one already out there. I know for a fact that there are airsoft reenactment groups in asia that play games revolving around WWII battles. Their uniforms and accoutrements are absolutely impeccable. So, please try to be a little more open minded when it comes to "oddball" airsoft ideas. They may not be so oddball afterall.

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« Reply #102 on: March 09, 2005, 08:37:38 PM »
HALLELUJA!

sorry busta i dont have 300 dollars just lying around to waste on extra clunky hardware mabe you do, but i refuse to spend money on something that costs the same as an aeg but has less potency. im sure many people would agree with me that if there was an authentic looking alternative RIFLE GRENADE LAUNCHER for half or 1/3 the price as a full on caw, or m79 it would be worth buying. especially if it looked bad ass on the ak, and yes busta ak-47s use rifle grenades as well as under-barrel grenade launchers. seeing as this is an ak thread im sure there are ak lovers on here that would be interested in them if and however they made them. i dont build or design airsoft guns so dont assume i know how to properly re-create a grenade assembly for one. thats why it was posted as an idea for a company to look into. If the japanese can make music players the size and almost the thickness of a saltine cracker im sure they could figure out how to make a barrel fitted launcher.
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« Reply #103 on: March 10, 2005, 01:23:26 AM »
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HALLELUJA!

sorry busta i dont have 300 dollars just lying around to waste on extra clunky hardware mabe you do, but i refuse to spend money on something that costs the same as an aeg but has less potency. im sure many people would agree with me that if there was an authentic looking alternative RIFLE GRENADE LAUNCHER for half or 1/3 the price as a full on caw, or m79 it would be worth buying. especially if it looked bad ass on the ak, and yes busta ak-47s use rifle grenades as well as under-barrel grenade launchers. seeing as this is an ak thread im sure there are ak lovers on here that would be interested in them if and however they made them. i dont build or design airsoft guns so dont assume i know how to properly re-create a grenade assembly for one. thats why it was posted as an idea for a company to look into. If the japanese can make music players the size and almost the thickness of a saltine cracker im sure they could figure out how to make a barrel fitted launcher.




Once again, another AK accessory that costs way too much.

If you are so bent on frugality, why don't you just make something?

After all, this is an expensive Big Boys hobby.  If you can't afford it, try something else.  Like crochet.
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« Reply #104 on: March 10, 2005, 11:58:39 AM »
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After all, this is an expensive Big Boys hobby.  If you can't afford it, try something else.  Like crochet.


HA. AK grenade lauchers are way too expensive. Having owned an AK for sometime, this stuff gets expensive quick with an AK. A scope mount is as much as 60 bucks!!! Best bet, like sarge said, is to work something out, i'm sure it can't be *that* hard.
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