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Another BDU thread!
« on: April 17, 2005, 10:38:00 AM »
Well there were some problems with my last order to BDU.com(my fault) but I am going to place an order tomorrow for some propper woodlands. I don't care what you guys say about issue this issue that. My question is...what is the best blend that won't fade..or fade too much, wont rip easily and will be heavy enough to keep me warm in the winter but light enough not to kill me during the summer. Here are the choices:

-100% COTTON RIPSTOP 4-POCKET COAT  
-50% NYLON / 50% COTTON RIPSTOP 4-POCKET COAT  
-50% NYLON / 50% COTTON TWILL 4-POCKET COAT  
-60% COTTON / 40% POLY TWILL 4-POCKET COAT  
-BATTLE RIP 65% POLY / 35% COTTON RIPSTOP 4-POCKET COAT
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« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2005, 11:59:58 AM »
Probably the "50% NYLON / 50% COTTON TWILL 4-POCKET COAT"
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« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2005, 12:11:12 PM »
I think i am actually going to get the battlerip, Tim suggested it, and it seems to be what would fit me the best.
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« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2005, 02:44:26 PM »
From my experience, both from airsoft and from spending 8 months wearing nothing but BDUs (seriously!), I can say the 50/50 NyCo ripstop will be your best bet.

50/50 twill fades easier, and is very very hot in the summer.

I even tried to fade my 50/50 NyCo ripstop, and it was a no-go.  That shit will hold its color when washed through everything, including rit color remover and a quite intense solution of chlorine bleach and water.  Pure bleach will turn it a funny orange-ish color, though.

50/50 NyCo rip is what the Army gave me, and it breathes well in the hotter months.  The Cotton provides comfort, and the nylon provides durability.  

Polyester is not durable, and while a bit more comfortable than nylon, will fade and become easily damaged.  It also disintegrates easier in MIL-H-23699 Turbine Engine Lubricating Oil and MIL-H-5606 Hydraulic fluid.  The 50/50 NyCo rip holds up well against most fluids and solvents when compared to poly, but I don't suppose that concerns you. ;)

Stick with 50/50 Nyco Ripstop and you will be ok!  Very durable, breathable, and comfortable.  

Buy a size bigger than you would wear.  Wash it in a mild detergent in Warm water and rinse twice.  Dry on HIGH HEAT in the dryer.  Repeat, but use liquid fabric softener the second time rinse.  This lubricates the fibers and will help them keep their shape and maintain the small ammount of elasticity they have.  Translation = your sh*t will last longer*.  After you do the initial wash, and wear it, just wash them when they need it.  Make sure to wash both top and bottom together every time, so they don't fade at a different rate (this is a long-term thing).

*This isn't recommended by the manufacturer, but works best.  

Oh yeah, don't use Febreeze on them.  If they smell, wash them or deal with it.
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« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2005, 09:11:41 PM »
50 nylon 50 cotton works best (its what the issues are made of  ;) ) ive owned bdus made of the 50 50 blends and theve lasted for years, never faded or ripped.
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« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2005, 09:43:38 PM »
After a couple a months shy of 8 years of wearing the things for the AZ ARNG, the last 4 daily for work, the last year in DCU's every day even "days off", the 50/50 nyco blend is prolly the best, all WILL fade eventually. And yes even issue one rip and fade, I have some from my first issue that look almost GREY compaired to the newer ones I have.

And Christian all BDU's don't like most Mil spec lubes or solvents, and they REALLY hate Oxy/ Acet Torch or welding work, EVEN the nomex ones WILL burn when red hot slag hits it and stays on it!
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« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2005, 10:41:48 PM »
50/50 ripstop is the ONLY way to go.  If you have the 50/50 twill you will ROAST in AZ.  We are issued the 50/50 twill (aka "winter" BDUs") I took them home, hung them up, and I havent worn them since.  I have a set of the 100% cotton ripstop, and I hate them.  They are from propper and are the worst cut, worst sized set of BDUs I have ever seen.  That said, I have yet to be impressed by a civilian market BDU of ANY manufacture or fabric.  The military issue 50/50 NyCo Rip stop ("summer") BDUs are the only unifrom I will wear.  They just cant be beat.

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« Reply #7 on: April 18, 2005, 09:46:04 AM »
Quote from: "RickEJ6"
50/50 ripstop is the ONLY way to go.  If you have the 50/50 twill you will ROAST in AZ.  We are issued the 50/50 twill (aka "winter" BDUs") I took them home, hung them up, and I havent worn them since.  I have a set of the 100% cotton ripstop, and I hate them.  They are from propper and are the worst cut, worst sized set of BDUs I have ever seen.  That said, I have yet to be impressed by a civilian market BDU of ANY manufacture or fabric.  The military issue 50/50 NyCo Rip stop ("summer") BDUs are the only unifrom I will wear.  They just cant be beat.

Rick


Word to yo' momma! 8)

Kevin, you're right about military clothing and chemicals.  That's why I work on Longbows naked.
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« Reply #8 on: April 18, 2005, 06:25:03 PM »
Quote from: "RickEJ6"
50/50 ripstop is the ONLY way to go.  If you have the 50/50 twill you will ROAST in AZ.  We are issued the 50/50 twill (aka "winter" BDUs") I took them home, hung them up, and I havent worn them since.  I have a set of the 100% cotton ripstop, and I hate them.  They are from propper and are the worst cut, worst sized set of BDUs I have ever seen.  That said, I have yet to be impressed by a civilian market BDU of ANY manufacture or fabric.  The military issue 50/50 NyCo Rip stop ("summer") BDUs are the only unifrom I will wear.  They just cant be beat.

Rick


amen!
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« Reply #9 on: April 18, 2005, 06:50:15 PM »
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That's why I work on Longbows naked.


 [smilie=armata_pdt_32.gif]  That's just wrong Christian, just plain Wrong! Ya at least need to think of saftey and wear yer steel toe boots! [smilie=armata_pdt_37.gif]
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« Reply #10 on: April 18, 2005, 09:24:15 PM »
Quote from: "RickEJ6"
If you have the 50/50 twill you will ROAST in AZ.


The MARPAT MCCUUs I had were 50/50 NYCO Twill and the Crye Precision Multicam field garments that I have are also 50/50 NYCO Twill and I've never had a problem with them being too hot.  I don't find any noticable difference in heat retention between them and the 100% cotton BDUs that I have.

I had a BDU jacket once that was that 65% polyester/35% cotton blend, and it was atrocious in this climate.
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« Reply #11 on: April 18, 2005, 09:32:30 PM »
Quote from: "Raith"
Quote from: "RickEJ6"
If you have the 50/50 twill you will ROAST in AZ.

The MARPAT MCCUUs I had were 50/50 NYCO Twill and the Crye Precision Multicam field garments that I have are also 50/50 NYCO Twill and I've never had a problem with them being too hot.  I don't find any noticable difference in heat retention between them and the 100% cotton BDUs that I have.

I had a BDU jacket once that was that 65% polyester/35% cotton blend, and it was atrocious in this climate.
Was that 65/35 a Propper Battlerip Matt? I doubt it, but thought I would ask.
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« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2005, 10:51:41 PM »
Maybe its just me...but most of the guys up here agree that the 50/50 twill is a much heavier and hotter fabric than the 50/50 ripstop.  I have both uniforms side by side next to me and I can tell a noticeable difference. Rick
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« Reply #13 on: April 19, 2005, 10:00:16 PM »
rip stop is lighter in weight as well. rip stop fabric has a good reputation of not fading or fraying or ripping :0,  thats why the military uses it. so id definitly go ripstop.
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« Reply #14 on: April 19, 2005, 10:36:16 PM »
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Was that 65/35 a Propper Battlerip Matt? I doubt it, but thought I would ask.


I don't think it was Propper, maybe Rothco, but they are usually quite terrible.
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