My Thoughts Regarding Minors in AA/Forums

[busta_cap]

Hey has anyone ever thought of making a "minor league" branch of AA. just a thought but i think with maybe 1 or 2 adults we could have just as much fun. i can understand where you adults are coming from even though i dont't agree completely. its just a thought but put it into consideration. O.K.

You will never see a leage of minors endorsed by AA in any way.

AA is an organiation that promotes the growth of airsoft in Arizona through the use of it's forums and 18+ games held every month.

If you want to play with other kids, go right ahead!  Use the forums here to announce a game for all ages, and have a ball.  Just don't expect to have many adults there.

True.

And if you're 14 and under, no matter what you think.. you're going to act like a child, and play like a child. Don't give us (me) any of that "but thats ghey" crud, because that's the facts.. you're just not mature enough yet.

Plus, I don't know about you guys.. but if I saw someone that I think is like.. 14 and under, I'll hesitate the hell out of shooting.. I know they know they're there to get shot, but they'd probly be new, and they might cry and crap.. and I don't wanna have that happen.

I have played with people my age and younger..And most of them suck..PLain and simple, which is why most adults also don't want to play with "kids". It isn't even a challenge, but a chore its self to pick them off while they run around like a chicken with its head cut off.

If YOU want to play with people that young Cheeze, go ahead, but I don't trust most people MY age with an AEG or even a springer, let alone let them shoot at me.

[studdermonkey]

Andy's right.. I know, him and Anthony are the two younger than me that I think are BETTER than me.

I kill all else  [smilie=armata_pdt_36.gif]

[Airsofter1]

I have played with people my age and younger..And most of them suck..PLain and simple, which is why most adults also don't want to play with "kids". It isn't even a challenge, but a chore its self to pick them off while they run around like a chicken with its head cut off.

Thats not why.  It has to do with liability in the eyes of the law.

[busta_cap]

I have played with people my age and younger..And most of them suck..PLain and simple, which is why most adults also don't want to play with "kids". It isn't even a challenge, but a chore its self to pick them off while they run around like a chicken with its head cut off.

Thats not why.  It has to do with liability in the eyes of the law.

I forgot to mention that too Mikey, but do you really want to play with someone who won't even put up a good fight?

[studdermonkey]

But not all of it is the eyes of the law.. it's just the excuse

[sNiPeRWoLf88]

plain and simple, most people don't want to deal with the process of eliminating liabilities (through waivers and signatures and NOTARIZED documents) for minors.

thus, many of them look down on minors because it seems to be such a tedious task to play along them (or because they believe the generalization that anyone under 18 is immature and incompetent).  and, in many ways, it is a rather harsh task.  

but most parents who let their kids airsoft understand the risks and would never be the asshole parent who sues the guy who shot the kid who took his goggles off on the field out of idiocy.

usually, rifle replicas in houses don't go unnoticed.    the same goes for kids asking for rides to GO to places with those replicas.

[Airsofter1]

I forgot to mention that too Mikey, but do you really want to play with someone who won't even put up a good fight?

Well, it does make me feel good about myself when I get a high body count...  

[andyhinds]

Most parents are cool with their kid playong airsoft until he/she gets hurt, then they look for somebody to sue.

[azsarge]

and it slowly turns into the same old debate. . .

[Bucket]

and it slowly turns into the same old debate. . .

Agreed. How about just agreeing to disagree?

[cmptrdewd]

and it slowly turns into the same old debate. . .

Agreed. How about just agreeing to disagree?

Agreed. Rules are rules and laws are laws, so shut up and deal with it!  [smilie=armata_pdt_35.gif]

I can wait a little while to play airsoft with you guys.

[azsarge]

Well, if you woiuld have read the inital post, you'd understand that the legal debate has no place in this thread.

From the first post on this thread:

I don't like to get into the legalities of this either, so please save that for another thread.  These are simply my thoughts from a social standpoint.

I posted this during a time of alot of confusion and mistaken opinions.  Everythings cool now!  Agree that everyone understands and leave it at that.

Agree to disagree?  Wrong topic!

[Phynstok]

To refer to the opening message, I agree with "age profiling" on of the main reasons (as far as I have seen) for foul mouthed speech or ronchy messages is due to cultural desensitization. I just saw Star Wars III in theatres. The movie is pg13 and I have been hearing local news casters encouraging parents to respect that rating and not take their little ones to the movie.

  I saw at least thirty kids under nine years of age.

You can say I'm over analyzing but I heard a high school student arguing with an adult about the F word. The kid said that he couldn't understand what all the fuss about the word was because it didn't have a definition. The adult blew up and ripped the kid a new one with a five minute lecture and a very graphic definition of the word. Yesterday's cuss words are becoming today's slang and yesterday's inuendo is becoming today's norm of speech. You could blame anyone but I blame ignorant parents who don't respect the safety net that is content rating. It's one of my biggest pet peaves. I do janitorial work at a church most nights and in one of the kids areas someone left a ps2 game. Metal Gear Solid 3. When I bought the game, I had to show ID. To put this into perspective, I have a full grown beard and mustache. Seeing this game box in the children's area of a flippin' church just made me ask the question "What's the world coming to?" There was even a special in the news recently about possible enforcement policies for video game rating systems and the possible consequences for parents who allow children who play games outside the appropriate age group. I doubt they will be able to enforce it but it can be a problem. I don't blame video games for violence. I blame parents who didn't teach their kids about violence and its inappropriate/appropriate situational applications. Granted, Star wars wasn't that bad, but if most parents let that slide, what else will they let slide. When I was a kid and the rating was pg13, my parents said, "not until your thirteen."  Simple as that.

[FLASH]

I have to say--NOBODY under 18!
I played Paintball for many years. I started back in 1989. Paintball once was fun, but they lowered thaage limits and little kids are playing the game, and have RUINED it!
They Cheat! They do not call themselves out when hit, they wipe, and they have big mouths.
I was at a game, inddors, the horn blew, and everyone began spraypainting the area. I got hit from behind by my own teammate, yet after I walked off the field, some little 9 years old from the other team kept taunting me that he had shot me out. I have played far too long to not know who shot me out.

I am NEW to Airsoft, in fact I have yet to play my first game, but I know its going to be a blast.
But lets keep it at an adult level for adults! NO kids!

FLASH

[andyhinds]

I have to say--NOBODY under 18!
I played Paintball for many years. I started back in 1989. Paintball once was fun, but they lowered thaage limits and little kids are playing the game, and have RUINED it!
They Cheat! They do not call themselves out when hit, they wipe, and they have big mouths.
I was at a game, inddors, the horn blew, and everyone began spraypainting the area. I got hit from behind by my own teammate, yet after I walked off the field, some little 9 years old from the other team kept taunting me that he had shot me out. I have played far too long to not know who shot me out.

I am NEW to Airsoft, in fact I have yet to play my first game, but I know its going to be a blast.
But lets keep it at an adult level for adults! NO kids!

FLASH

Welcome to the AA forum, Airsoft is a sport that relies on honor (more so than paintball for obvious reasons).  I agree with most of what you said, and have experienced some of the same problems in paintball as you did.  However you shouldn't generalize.  I'm no fan of playing against those under the age of 18, but have found a lot of exceptions within the ranks of airsofters.  There are a lot great 17 year old players that I've skirmished with on a regular basis and even a 16 year old that has proven himself to be a good player and good guy on the field.

Best bet is to come out have a couple of games, and see which airsofters you like to skirmish with the most, some people charge and area and spray and pray, others are patient and will wait for you to make a mistake.  Find those you like to skirmish with the most and attend games with them.