Using aircraft in a game

[Mooncruiser]

We were discussing using ultralight aircraft and/or helicopters in a scenario thread, I thought we might discuss it more here.

I have a PPC (Powered Parachute) that I fly under FAR part 103. I also have a two-seater that flies as an ultralight trainer under FAA exemption.

Anyone else fly?

[1trooper, manyweapons]

yes but its a cessna.

3years of ROV flight. airplanes & helis, turbine jets.

Whos got the money for a helo, MD-500 lite 2seater? or better yet an autogyro.

Hey Mooncruiser, how much did your PPC cost you? I been itchin to fly one.

[Mooncruiser]

...My single-seater, new $11,400  My 2-seater,used $11,000.

There's a few for sale in the Valley at www.azppc.com

I'm only limited by FAA for altitude; 10K MSL. The current altitude record is 20,000ft AGL

I like the idea of an inflight ROV launch, it's doable on my end.
Chip

[Greg]

From the other thread:

Aircraft are required to fly at certain altitudes based on physical weight. An ultralight aircraft is light enough to fly low to the ground but the best thing about ultralight is that you do not need a.) federal license b.) prescripted flight plan c.) transponder.

Those are good things? :?

[busta_cap]

From the other thread:

Aircraft are required to fly at certain altitudes based on physical weight. An ultralight aircraft is light enough to fly low to the ground but the best thing about ultralight is that you do not need a.) federal license b.) prescripted flight plan c.) transponder.

Those are good things? :?

Give woody a sec, he just ran into a bush... :roll:

[Mooncruiser]

Aircraft weight has nothing to do with altitude restrictions. Flying into different airspace classifications does.

Transponders (such as mode C altitude encoding) aren't required except in Class C or controlled airspace, such as municipal airports. We ultralight pilots don't fly around cities, as a rule.

We have rules to follow as all aircraft do. But yes, lack of many requirements for faster, heavier aircraft IS a good thing.

It keeps the cost of flying down enough to allow us po' folk to aviate.

[azsarge]

Yeah, I fly.  No way you're going to see a Blackhawk at a game anytime in the near future, though.

Using aircraft for airsoft is ridiculous and unsafe, unless it's some sort of Helicopter used for infil/exfil with AEGs completely safed (ie no mag, no batteries).

[Mooncruiser]

..You're assuming the aircraft exchanges fire with the ground, right?
Ain't what we're talking here, Sarge.

Using aircraft for recon, or to launch a R/C glider can be done safely.

I'll leave burnin' jet A to you guys.
Chip

[busta_cap]

..You're assuming the aircraft exchanges fire with the ground, right?
Ain't what we're talking here, Sarge.

Using aircraft for recon, or to launch a R/C glider can be done safely.

I'll leave burnin' jet A to you guys.
Chip

I think you have been inhaling WAAAY to much fumes pal, recon? Even at LC where it's the biggest AO in the country as far as games...You don't need a fucking plane. Get off your lazy ass and do some REAL recon!

[azsarge]

..You're assuming the aircraft exchanges fire with the ground, right?
Ain't what we're talking here, Sarge.

Using aircraft for recon, or to launch a R/C glider can be done safely.

I'll leave burnin' jet A to you guys.
Chip

I'm not talking about exchanging fire, I read the thread thanks.

I just don't think it's a good idea.  R/C planes with cameras are OK, a la UAV, but I don't like the idea of a dude flying over me in something he built himself.

[Mooncruiser]

Busta, I'll ignore what you just posted, you're young..

Christian, Both my PPC's were manufactured in an aircraft plant.

[Greg]

R/C planes with cameras are OK, a la UAV,

One huge problem I see with this is that the operator must be able to see the "UAV" the entire time it is in flight. Many of our AO's have too much cover to be able to fly the plane far enough away from the pilot to be useful. Therefore, the pilot would have to be at an elevated position. In which case, he could easily just use a pair of binocs and a radio to do the same thing.

but I don't like the idea of a dude flying over me in something he built himself.

+1, no offense, but ultralights are freakin scary.

[busta_cap]

Busta, I'll ignore what you just posted, you're young..

Christian, Both my PPC's were manufactured in an aircraft plant.

It doesn't matter, the fact is, your idea is:

1. UNsafe

2. Probably not legal in some way or another

3. Just plain dumb, anyone with common sense wouldn't do it. If they even used RC aircraft it would be a hazard...onyl takes one servo link arm off of something and you will have a propeller in your face.

[azsarge]

Busta, I'll ignore what you just posted, you're young..

Christian, Both my PPC's were manufactured in an aircraft plant.

It doesn't matter, the fact is, your idea is:

1. UNsafe

2. Probably not legal in some way or another

3. Just plain dumb, anyone with common sense wouldn't do it. If they even used RC aircraft it would be a hazard...onyl takes one servo link arm off of something and you will have a propeller in your face.

OK, time for you to STFU.  For some reason you are under the impression that your opinion is authoritative and we shall all agree.  

You disagree.  Let it go.

[busta_cap]

Busta, I'll ignore what you just posted, you're young..

Christian, Both my PPC's were manufactured in an aircraft plant.

It doesn't matter, the fact is, your idea is:

1. UNsafe

2. Probably not legal in some way or another

3. Just plain dumb, anyone with common sense wouldn't do it. If they even used RC aircraft it would be a hazard...onyl takes one servo link arm off of something and you will have a propeller in your face.

OK, time for you to STFU.  For some reason you are under the impression that your opinion is authoritative and we shall all agree.  

You disagree.  Let it go.

No, but it is my opinion, and I will share it whether you like it or not. It is a dumb idea, it isn't ever going to happen, so let this talk about aircraft of any kind at games die.