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Offline Vince

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« Reply #30 on: June 30, 2005, 11:10:20 PM »
Firehead, I'd say that in order to get near the accuracy of a Tanaka M40, it'd need a metal hop and a longer inner barrel...both of which are damn near extinct for it. Paired with kicbb's metal hop chamber, it's actually a decent gun, but, well, nobody has those.

Mooncruiser...do you know what it would be like trying to accurately shoot a .2 BB at 500FPS? Please.  :roll:  stands. End the chairsofting...garner experience, then form correct opinions.
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« Reply #31 on: June 30, 2005, 11:10:36 PM »
Andy mind if I take a shot or two with your rifle?
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« Reply #32 on: June 30, 2005, 11:10:58 PM »
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Andy, you don't know crap about that gun. It HAS an adjustable hopup(annoying though) and it can use heavy wieght BBs. And it is fairly accurate, if not AS accurate as your fancy Tanaka M40.
Twas Why I said, correct me if Im wrong. It just doesnt fit into the "sniper" role at all...maybe counter sniper but its just a pistol on roids...


Chainsaw, I don't see how you can shoot me while you are still whipping it out... I thought by 5th grade they tought logical order of thinking. :roll:
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« Reply #33 on: June 30, 2005, 11:12:20 PM »
Nah I ment to say putting it away.
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« Reply #34 on: June 30, 2005, 11:14:31 PM »
Who cares if it "fits" into the sniper role? It performs as well as any sniper rifle on the field for about 1/3(or less) the cost of a decent rifle.
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« Reply #35 on: June 30, 2005, 11:17:05 PM »
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Who cares if it "fits" into the sniper role? It performs as well as any sniper rifle on the field for about 1/3(or less) the cost of a decent rifle.
Well..Someone bring a MK1 to the game on the 3rd....and well see how it fairs up with my gun, if I get this tightbore installed in time...
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« Reply #36 on: June 30, 2005, 11:19:35 PM »
You won't even be running a stock gun, so you really can't compare the two, becuase you have an obvious advantage(like my ak versus an m4). Compare them stock, then you have something to brag about. With the same equipment, or close, the Mk1 will work just as well, if not better than your M40.
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« Reply #37 on: June 30, 2005, 11:19:49 PM »
Yeah Vince, I like sitting in my comfy ol' chair in the backyard and shooting 3" groups at 150 feet.

I could get more range but the eyes are gettin' bad.  8)

Face it, any more FPS and we're getting into the serious injury range. Gotta keep it a game or get more EMT's playing..
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« Reply #38 on: June 30, 2005, 11:22:33 PM »
Yes, Mooncruiser. The idea is that if you shoot at 500 f/s with .2s, you'll shoot slower with heavier BBs (usually). The joules will remain constant, so it will  contain the same energy, but a heavier BB is way more stable, since there is more mass, thus more force needed by outside elements to disrupt it's flight path.

Case in point : if you are sniping, you use heavy BBs. Can you tell me why Maruzen makes their Super Grand Masters .29's and not .2's?
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« Reply #39 on: June 30, 2005, 11:23:27 PM »
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Yeah Vince, I like sitting in my comfy ol' chair in the backyard and shooting 3" groups at 150 feet.

I could get more range but the eyes are gettin' bad.  8)

Face it, any more FPS and we're getting into the serious injury range. Gotta keep it a game or get more EMT's playing..
I think you have no idea what your talking about....Once you get past a certain fps...with a certain length of barrel, bb's get to a certain point and go in different directions like no other...This is how it works

A light bb goes everywhere....

A heavy bb may not go as far(in a not powerful enough gun) but stays on course farther and will hit harder...I gauruntee you will feel a .43 at 200ft...you might not feel sht with a .25 or .2...

If you need proof..I will put a .2, then .25, then 30, then 36, then 43 in my rifle...You tell me which ones go flying everywhere and which ones dont. ;)
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« Reply #40 on: June 30, 2005, 11:31:45 PM »
Okay, fair enough. I agree with what you are both saying. A heavier round will fly more stable.

What I am saying is that the .20 BB I shoot is accurate enough at 150' to hit most any target. This gun chrono's at 500 and above sometimes. (I'm now using straight propane from the adapter) At the distance I'm shooting, it shoot's good enough. Nothing flying off course so far.

I wonder what someone getting shot accidentally at "close" range with a really hot gun is going to experience? Where's the limit to FPS?
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« Reply #41 on: June 30, 2005, 11:33:44 PM »
I know what the experience is like. It's not great, but it isn't terrible either. My AEG shoots 150' body-accurate as well...how is that "sniper" ?
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« Reply #42 on: June 30, 2005, 11:40:58 PM »
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Okay, fair enough. I agree with what you are both saying. A heavier round will fly more stable.

What I am saying is that the .20 BB I shoot is accurate enough at 150' to hit most any target. This gun chrono's at 500 and above sometimes. (I'm now using straight propane from the adapter) At the distance I'm shooting, it shoot's good enough. Nothing flying off course so far.

I wonder what someone getting shot accidentally at "close" range with a really hot gun is going to experience? Where's the limit to FPS?
150ft really isn't a badass shot....It's 150ft to my trashcan from my garage..and at that range I can hit a shoebox with my G23...Past 250-300ft is where its at. BRO!
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« Reply #43 on: June 30, 2005, 11:49:09 PM »
What do ypur 250-300' range rifles chrono at?

I know you can get unbelievable FPS out of an airgun. My RWS .177 zips at near 1200FPS ..That's .22 velocity.

With a heavy .177 round, that'll kill, boys.
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« Reply #44 on: June 30, 2005, 11:50:18 PM »
500 w/ .2s
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