covert sniper.

[Mugen]

Speaking of the PSG1....Hk claims a shot dispersal of less than 60mm at 450m for the PSG-1.

[Reaver]

A "sniper" weapon is bolt action....why do you think besides the Barret series, all other match grade sniper rifles are bolt action? The .50 isnt a tango killer, its a tank killer! :lol:  A sniper should switch to a sidearm, or a backup(small aeg gbb Smg etc). As a sniper, you shouldn't be seen in the first place, and if you are, you should be able to fend off anyone before they get clsoe.

  A "sniper" weapon is not "always" bolt-action.  You just need to use the right weapon for the right job.  A semi-auto can work just fine for a law enforement role, but be bad for out in the brush.  And aside from the Barret, there is also the SVD, and that's sniper grade rifle that has been used effectively for decades.  

  Also, the .50 cal isn't much of a tank killer now a days, unless its a really old tank.  It is still good for light armored vehicles and in an anti-material role.  

[chainsaw]

A "sniper" weapon is bolt action....why do you think besides the Barret series, all other match grade sniper rifles are bolt action? The .50 isnt a tango killer, its a tank killer! :lol:  A sniper should switch to a sidearm, or a backup(small aeg gbb Smg etc). As a sniper, you shouldn't be seen in the first place, and if you are, you should be able to fend off anyone before they get clsoe.

  A "sniper" weapon is not "always" bolt-action.  You just need to use the right weapon for the right job.  A semi-auto can work just fine for a law enforement role, but be bad for out in the brush.  And aside from the Barret, there is also the SVD, and that's sniper grade rifle that has been used effectively for decades.  

  Also, the .50 cal isn't much of a tank killer now a days, unless its a really old tank.  It is still good for light armored vehicles and in an anti-material role.  

And what about the single shot breech action You can get some nice accurate guns of that type.

[Reaver]

And what about the single shot breech action You can get some nice accurate guns of that type.

  Agreed.  You don't see them much these days though.  Typically its bolt or semi, since you get more of an ammunition load before needing to reload.  After all, you never know when you may need to make a quick follow up shot.

[Vince]

The only breech loader I can think of in airsoft is the Digicon Contender. And, uh, yeah.

[JoJockAmo]

Question is, can you get the same performance, stock, out of the box, no mods and under $110 from another short barrel gas gun.

The answer is no!

I also own one.
Use .28 and have outranged a few M24s and other upgraded "sniper" rifles
I'm not saying its a "sniper" rifle or even the best, but I only spent $110
And there are upgrades (some hard to find)
-barrel extension (adds over 100 fps)only $35
-hop-up
-valves
-Wood/plastic stocks-rails-suppresser adaptors
-lots of stuff.
With the right upgrades (and still under $200) I think it can out perform most "sniper" rifles.
Oh, yah that damm KJW M700 only $210
Thats another topic itself.

[Mooncruiser]

I'd like a suppresor for mine. -Where do you find the add-on stuff?

[azsarge]

I'd like a suppresor for mine. -Where do you find the add-on stuff?

In the small drawers at Ace Hardware.  Outstanding performance notwithstanding, it's not a very popular item and stores inventory of aftermarket accessories reflect this.

Jay DeWeese had one and I borrowed it for a few scenarios one day.  I must say that it far exceeded my expectations of such a small weapon.  It was reliable, and very gas-efficient.  Accuracy and range were as mentioned above.

That said, it's an ugly piece of sh*t and I will never buy one.

[JoJockAmo]

(This is FarFromEinstein on another nickname)
Andy... Its not that bad of a rifle, I just shot one out back of JT and its pretty good, it DOES have an adjustable hopup, so it can use heavy BB's.

Wow you guys are ghetto....Well Chainsaw, talk to me at the game on sunday and I will show you a REAL covert sniper rifle...one that will punch thru a coke can at 100yds...and really hit it too....

You shouldnt brag about your rifle being able to go through a can at 100 yards.. because you cant hit a can at 100 yards, and if it is able to do that.. im sure its way over 500 fps, and if you use heavy BB's.. then the range wont be that great, thats why I use the .29 BB's.

And it being ugly is an opinion, I think wooden stocks look ugly (other than the m14, m1 carbine, and a couple other guns).

Who cares if it "fits" into the sniper role? It performs as well as any sniper rifle on the field for about 1/3(or less) the cost of a decent rifle.

Well..Someone bring a MK1 to the game on the 3rd....and well see how it fairs up with my gun, if I get this tightbore installed in time...

if you want to put it to the test with your rifle... lets put your rifle to the test next to my rifle :-D

A "sniper" weapon is bolt action...

Wrong..
Sniper:
a. A skilled military shooter detailed to spot and pick off enemy soldiers from a concealed place.
b. One who shoots at other people from a concealed place.
You can do that with a handgun... Other sniper rifles that are NOT BAR's would be the PSG1, m14, spr, sr25, etc.


Its not that bad of a gun for the money. Id get one but I have other things to buy, fix, upgrade, or finish.

[Farslayer]

You guys need to settle this on the field.

[busta_cap]

(This is FarFromEinstein on another nickname)
Andy... Its not that bad of a rifle, I just shot one out back of JT and its pretty good, it DOES have an adjustable hopup, so it can use heavy BB's.

Wow you guys are ghetto....Well Chainsaw, talk to me at the game on sunday and I will show you a REAL covert sniper rifle...one that will punch thru a coke can at 100yds...and really hit it too....

You shouldnt brag about your rifle being able to go through a can at 100 yards.. because you cant hit a can at 100 yards, and if it is able to do that.. im sure its way over 500 fps, and if you use heavy BB's.. then the range wont be that great, thats why I use the .29 BB's.

And it being ugly is an opinion, I think wooden stocks look ugly (other than the m14, m1 carbine, and a couple other guns).

Who cares if it "fits" into the sniper role? It performs as well as any sniper rifle on the field for about 1/3(or less) the cost of a decent rifle.

Well..Someone bring a MK1 to the game on the 3rd....and well see how it fairs up with my gun, if I get this tightbore installed in time...

if you want to put it to the test with your rifle... lets put your rifle to the test next to my rifle :-D

A "sniper" weapon is bolt action...

Wrong..
Sniper:
a. A skilled military shooter detailed to spot and pick off enemy soldiers from a concealed place.
b. One who shoots at other people from a concealed place.
You can do that with a handgun... Other sniper rifles that are NOT BAR's would be the PSG1, m14, spr, sr25, etc.


Its not that bad of a gun for the money. Id get one but I have other things to buy, fix, upgrade, or finish.

All of that is taken out of context..... And It shouldnt be over 500fps... Some guns are just good..Don't be pissed cause yours isnt as someone elses.. Like normal, whenever you dont have something that someone has thats good, you knock it. Typical response.

[gixser13]

You guys and the sniper. Its ever Newbies dream to snipe.....Sniper have a very important role on the field. Its Not all about trigger time. I dont care What Your useing as an AEG, Springer or Gas its about skills
 Mark Anderson use to use a None upgraded bolt action rifle(sorry mark dont remember what you used)Point is the man makes the weapon not the other way around!
 Another Thing snipers need trigger discipline. You have to use alot of judgment when to take a shot and when Not.
 
 I remember One of my frist games where a player from Tucson(No names) Was using a MK1 with a barrel (rifle setup)in  CQB. 25 feet away BB breaking apart after hitting  the wall behind Me..NOT COOL

[mohawkdude]

Just because yo have sniper rifle that cost $650 doesn't mean you can hit everything you shoot at.

[Bucket]

 I remember One of my frist games where a player from Tucson(No names) Was using a MK1 with a barrel (rifle setup)in  CQB. 25 feet away BB breaking apart after hitting  the wall behind Me..NOT COOL

Yeah I remember that game. It was the one where Woody cracked his head on the roof of the Catacombs. That is a prime example of an UN-SAFE player.

BTW he hasn't used one since that game.

[zapbrannigan92]

Just got the KWJ M700, oh baby! Very nice, just as everyone promised...Always looking to hear about people and their guns..now I have one that ranks with everyone elses!